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Re: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS


From: Matt Burnett <marukka () mac com>
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:20:28 -0600

I know they can check what OS the client is running.

On 11/29/03 8:40 AM, "Depp, Dennis M." <deppdm () ornl gov> wrote:

Yes you can do this, but how do you identify which machines need hotfixes
installed?



-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Burnett [mailto:marukka () mac com]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 10:59 PM
To: Depp, Dennis M.; Steve; ZyberGeek () comcast net;
security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

As far as installing hotfixes with altiris. CouldnĀ¹t you just use RapiDeploy
and make a RIP that just executes the hotfix and push that out via the
console?

On 11/26/03 5:56 AM, "Depp, Dennis M." <deppdm () ornl gov> wrote:

We have recently installed SMS 2.0.  Before that we evaluated both
Altiris and SMS.  Both products were very similar in setup, design and
architecture.  There were two items that pushed us to choose SMS over
Altiris.  First we have an Enterprise Agreement with Microsoft which
includes the CALS for SMS.  This made the cost of implementing SMS very
affordable.  Second Altiris lack the ease of deploying hotfixes that
came with the SUS Feature Pack for SMS.  Both of these products require
significant planning for a smooth installation.

Denny  

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve [mailto:securityfocus () delahunty com]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:59 PM
To: Depp, Dennis M.; ZyberGeek () comcast net;
security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

I'll assume you mean "wins" in terms of security.  I think the security
areas/issues would resolve around:
  - encryption from the server to the desktop
  - system admin management access control
  - what else?

Network Computing covered some of the above issues but not in too much
depth.  You could review sales technical literature from both products
online for your comparison.

I tried getting SMS working years ago and would have rather hit myself
in
the head with a hammer, which I think we tried at one time during the
deployment.  I have desktop management experience with LANdesk Manager
when
it was an Intel product and another product called Callisto Orbiter
which
was obtained by Novell.  We didn't really get into security issues with
those products but I can see the merit of your question about security
and
desktop management, don't want some unauthorized person pushing some
worm/keylogger etc to all your hundreds or thousands of computers for
sure.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Depp, Dennis M." <deppdm () ornl gov>
To: <ZyberGeek () comcast net>; <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS


What kind of desktops?  All windows or a mix of Windows, Mac and Unix?
If all Windows clients, I think SMS with the SUS feature pack wins over
Altiris hands down.  If you are running a mix, SMS is still a
possibility, but you will need to purchase some add on tools from
Altiris to finis the task.

Dennis


-----Original Message-----
From: ZyberGeek [mailto:ZyberGeek () comcast net]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:03 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

Between Microsoft SMS and Altiris Deployment Server, which product could
be
considered to be the better one for managing several hundred desktops
from a
security stand point?

Z.G.


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