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RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!
From: "Drew Hunt" <Drew () Valleymed org>
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:07:12 -0700
Here are my 2 cents: Have a basic plan. It will have to be reworked over and over but don't bite off more than you can chew. Have meaningful goals and attainable objectives. Get support! You will need upper-level support to approve and support your seemingly never ending stream of changes and updates which will invariable brake some current business processes in the path to a sustainable business computing environment. Have a basic policy that you accept will change over time(hopefully better and more detailed). Then focus on one thing and make that work right. Than choose another. Sometime the area will choose you (a virus outbreak) and sometimes you will be forced to be working on several areas at the same time but stay focused and moving forward. Don't give up or give in to the fact that you name had now become synonymous with rapid change and more stuff that you're forcing people to do. Educate everyone that this is the right thing to do and it is know because you said so and know better. Document well and over time you may get the organization walking the path. Good Luck. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Steve Frank [mailto:stevefrankrit () yahoo com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:56 AM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Hey everyone, Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to get some feedback from some of you with appropriate experience in the field of network security and policy development. I am an senior at RIT studying (essentially) systems administration. My main focus and priority has been computer security and policy development. I recently took a internship with a small government office helping out with computer administration tasks. Upon arrival, I decided it would be fun to do a windows update to see what sort of things would come up for my PC. Low and behold, there were over 40 critical updates, driver updates, and recommended updates. Right off the bat this triggered the feeling that there was absolutely no security or update plans in place at this particular organization. I quickly addressed the issue, and have been working to draft a comprehensive security policy and implement technical controls. What I need advice on is the following: If you were introduced to a mixed network (literally all versions of windows since 3.1 and mac systems) that have no updates, backups, or patches installed... connected to a network with only a basic NAT table and no other security... with not even anti-virus software enabled... with no user policies or disaster plans in place... with unprotected netbios shares everywhere... where would you start the process of building some sort of security solution? I mean, I've seen passwords on monitors, shared accounts, open public ports (even the wiring cabinet was unlocked in plain view of passbys to the building). I've been tasked with creating the security policies relating to internet use, network and phone use, passwords, physical security, backup/disaster plans, antivirus, incident response, email use/protection, and whatever else needs done. This wouldnt be so bad normally I guess, but there is virtually no budget allocated to help for this project and I have approximately 3 months to do it. To make matters worse, I am also responsible for systems admin, network admin, tech support, programming, and whatever other tasks may need to be done in the meantime. So basically, if you had to start from nothing, where would you start first? What would you consider to be the most important things to be implemented? I am literally working from ground zero here... heh! Thank so much in advance ;-) Steve Frank ---------------- President SPARSA Security Practices and Research Student Association Rochester Institute of Technology __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Evaluating SSL VPNs' Consider NEOTERIS, chosen as leader by top analysts! The Gartner Group just put Neoteris in the top of its Magic Quadrant, while InStat has confirmed Neoteris as the leader in marketshare. Find out why, and see how you can get plug-n-play secure remote access in about an hour, with no client, server changes, or ongoing maintenance. Visit us at: http://www.neoteris.com/promos/sf-6-9.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Evaluating SSL VPNs' Consider NEOTERIS, chosen as leader by top analysts! 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