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Re: **SPAM** Re: Please help with this strangeness


From: Michael Thompson <mike () thompsonmike co uk>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:07:31 +0000

Hello JGrimshaw,


On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, at 12:31:14 [GMT -0600] (which was 18:31 in my
TimeZone) you wrote:




It would seem that if .69 is sending out these pings, which you say is the
router.

Correct.

There would appear to be something else going on, so I am guessing you
have private addresses internally and they are being NATed?

That is correct, every machine runs thru NAT.

  How is the
router connected?

How do you mean? It is a Linux box connected to a ADSL modem.

Just noticed in the ADSL modem config (DLink DSL-300G+) it lists the
following info:

IP Address: 81.174.224.69
Gateway: 81.174.224.70

Dont know if that matters.


  I do not understand how the IP address of the router is
connecting to anything other than a point-to-point (if my /30 suggestion
is true, which it probably is not) with another IP in the same range.  You
have said the .70 is associated with another server that is not in use, so
my guess is that the router is not connected to it.  So I am not sure what
to think about that--can you provide more details?  Make up numbers if you
like, or use x.x.x.x and depict subnets.

Internal Subnet is 255.255.255.0 Private address in ranges of
192.168.1.0/24

If the router has this .69 address, I would expect then that everyone is
being NATed to use that address to access the internet?  Are you using NAT
overload?

They are using NAT, yes, but I am not sure that it is overload. Dont
really understand that.

If this is the case, you may wish to sniff the internal segment and see
where the ICMPs are coming from--having an IDS on the outside will not
determine the  internal source IP address, just the NATed one.

I have run snort internally as well, and ethereal, and they have not
picked up on this. Seems to be truley external.



-- 
Best regards,
 Michael

http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/
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