RE: Spyware blocking with HOSTS file on DNS server

["Andrew Shore" <andrew.shore () holistecs com>]

I have to agree, staying on top of a tack like this is a huge commitment
and one you'll probably never achieve. There are more and more of these
site springing up every day.

I would recommend Websense with the spyware module.

Just my 2 cents but I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnson, Joey [mailto:Joey.Johnson () MWAA com] 
Sent: 28 January 2005 20:39
To: Dan Lynch; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Spyware blocking with HOSTS file on DNS server

Any particular reason you don't want to manage all this yourself
manually?
There are several good enterprise level solutions out there. Some of
them free. You mentioned you're in a Windows domain so have a browse at
this site and go from there?

http://www.winnetmag.net/WindowsSecurity/Article/ArticleID/44624/44624.h
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Lynch [mailto:dan.lynch () placer ca gov] 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 1:45 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Spyware blocking with HOSTS file on DNS server

Greetings list,

Recent plagues of spyware/adware on our ~2000-client network has us
interested in strategies for eliminating it. One path we're
investigating is the use of compiled lists of known spyware/adware host
names in HOSTS file format that resolve them to loopback. But since all
our clients proxy web traffic through a central point, no name
resolution is ever done at the client and a HOSTS file would do us no
good at the desktop. Instead our proxy server performs all name
resolution against an internal DNS server. Also, we'd like to centrally
manage the solution. Questions follow:

- list policies and practices
We'd like to find a compiled HOSTS file with clear policies and
transparent practices for inclusion and removal. Of the dozen or so
HOSTS files I've found, none seem to meet that desire. Anyone have
experience with a source that might be, um... "enterprise friendly"?
Fairly regular updates would be good too, but it seems easy to find
lists that are well maintained.

- Loopback vs 0.0.0.0; connection use
It seems some HOSTS lists like to resolve names to loopback
(127.0.0.1), but others advocate resolving to 0.0.0.0. Which is better?
If resolving to loopback, do we have to wait for the connection to
timeout? But when resolving to 0.0.0.0, is the failure more immediate?
Since this would all be taking place at a fairly busy proxy server, what
would the impact of one or the other be to my connection pool?

- HOSTS to zone conversion
Since our proxy is a closed-source appliance we may be unable to put a
HOSTS file on it. Further, if we can't make our DNS server pay attention
to its own HOSTS file I assume that we'd need to convert any list to a
zone file for import to the DNS server. New to me...any hints or tips
here? Should I make an effort to eliminate all the host names and just
pretend to be master of each adware domain? This is an oddball enough
situation that my introductory DNS skills can't figure out the best way
to do it. Any help would be appreciated.

Any other gotchas or hints from the list are welcomed. I also welcome
reference to lists or forums more closely focused on this area of
interest.

Thanks,

Dan Lynch, CISSP
County of Placer
Auburn, CA