Re: ITT a good ISS school to attend?

["Brandee Adderley" <abrandee () hotmail com>]

Hi Curtis,

I have my BSISS degree from ITT. I also have an AS from ITT. I attended in 
Utah where the technical schools are lacking. ITT does have it pros and 
cons. I appreciated the hands on, since i was new to the IT field. I 
appreciated the small class sizes, and great teachers. The ISS degree was a 
challenge because we lacked teachers that were from the field, but the 
teachers did what they could and overall it was a good experience.

The books are crap and i wouldnt even use mine for reference  now, but if 
you have a good teacher, they will use hand written tests, and base it off 
of real books.

Before attending, i would talk to the teachers for that degree. See how much 
they go out of their way.

If you have any questions let me know :)


> From: Joseph Forbes <jftitan () gmail com>
> Reply-To: Joseph Forbes <jftitan () gmail com>
> To: Curtis <demoshark () gmail com>
> CC: security-basics () securityfocus com
> Subject: Re: ITT a good ISS school to attend?
> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:30:27 -0600
>
> Good News Curtis!
>
>   As one of my past experiences was when I was going to ITT Tech.
> unfortunately I was in Texas, thus limiting my ability to continue
> onto a 4 year degree through ITT. There are Pros and Cons with ITT,
> which you'll see quite abit of Cons at ITTsucks.com.  But a positive,
> while I was going to ITT, was that I did encounter knowledgable
> instructors. But unfortunately I didn't get any worthy instructors
> until the final 3 quarters at ITT.   A major change has recently taken
> ITT, that required them to change where they get there books from. ITT
> used to have their books written and published by NIIT, which is known
> to be a inside outsourced company for ITT based in india.  Most of the
> tests sucked, but if the instructor was good, they acutally used
> his/her own test, which in particular the custom tests are always
> better than the NIIT prewritten tests.
>
>  Alot of changes are taking in effect at ITT lately which may improve
> the quality of the education, but this change is also going to effect
> the tuition as well. One thing I noticed with the first quarter
> students, during my last (8th) quarter, was that ITT was getting nazi
> when it came to attendance.  I was told it was because of the Texas
> Workforce Commission which was enforcing the rules.
>
>   personally, I would recommend ITT for anyone just getting out of
> highschool, but never for anyone already in the IT field. You'll learn
> more from other forms of education (unless your employeer is willing
> to cover your expense) I wouldn't goto ITT.  My experience was good,
> but I still have reservations about the quality of education I
> received.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:51:44 -0800, Curtis <demoshark () gmail com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Hopefully this question is directed to the right list. I am
> > considering going to ITT Tech for a.a. in SAP (Software Application
> > Programming) and a b.s. in ISS (Information Systems Security. )
> > I have heard a wide variety of pros and cons about ITT ranging from
> > "you learn more than other 4-year regular colleges" to "the
> > instructors don't even know what they are teaching and all you learn
> > is how to pass a certification, provided your instructor didn't
> > already sell it to you." One of the main reasons I am considering ITT
> > is because it is the only school in Southern California that I know of
> > that offers a degree in ISS.
> >
> > Should I instead of looking for a degree in ISS but rather focus on a
> > degree in programming & networking then get security certifications?
> > Also does anyone know if ITT is really that horrible and if I should
> > instead of going to ITT go to a junior college?
> > Are my chances of getting a job leading to a ISS job even lower than
> > if I went to a four-year college? I do realize that security can be
> > hard to get into and may have to settle for a tech support job and
> > work my way up from there.
> > Finally, if ITT isn't a good school, any suggestions on a good
> > ISS/programming school that is located in Southern California?
> >
> > Curtis
> >
>
>
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