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RE: GIAC Dilution
From: "Joshua Berry" <jberry () PENSON COM>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:14:53 -0600
I am glad that I am not the only one feeling a little shafted with the announcement that the practical requirement of the GIAC is going away? My opinion was that the practical on top of the tests is what gave this certification a lot of value. I think it takes away from the people already certified to remove that requirement and also takes away from organizations looking to hire security staff because now it is just another paper cert. Most of the other people that took that certification work full-time and found the time to do it (obviously everyone can't but there has to be some sort of compromise). I think it would be better to divide the certifications into two levels, one where you just pass the tests, and the other where you take a practical. So you could be a L1 GIAC Intrusion Analyst after taking the tests), and become an L2 GIAC Intrusion Analyst after passing the practical. I feel like I wasted several months writing a paper for a certification that now means little more than the CISSP and MCSE as far as technical knowledge and skill are concerned. -----Original Message----- From: Aman Raheja [mailto:araheja () techquotes com] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 11:33 AM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Re: GIAC Dilution I would really like this topic to be more flooded with opinions. It is indeed sad that this exam organizer (corp) has decided to make more money rather than give certification to people who really deserve. I was planning to take this exam as well. I am not sure, if this is going to be equivalent to a Securoty+ now, which is cheaper and probably would have the same market value - both being only exam based certs. My next step would be CISSP but that's a way to go, though I already have enough experience to take that exam. Nevertheless, some one mentioned that GIAC is going to drop pricing. Any pointers to that ? Thanks Aman Raheja http://www.techquotes.com adeel hussain wrote:
Hello Everyone, I agree with you all in regards to the certification loosing it's prestige and meaning. I do think that the certification will still have some meaning as a representation of security knowledge just not waht it once was. As I understand it there will no longer be a option to complete the practical so all certs from this point on will be exam only. The distinction between the exam only and practical versions will be unknown to the general masses and will even blur over time with those that currently know the difference. I think GIAC, and possibly SANS, will have to drop there prices a bit to reflect the reduced value of the cert. I for one was working on a practical prior to signing up for the certification attempt. That practical will no longer be required and the work will go to waste. Perhaps I will publish it anyway in addition to applying it's message to my organization. Having said that I do plan on attaining the GSEC. If they drop the prices I may go for more certs before people catch on that the value has depreciated. As was stated previously "ride the wave". The time of the seasoned proffesional is now behind us..... roll on the paper GIAC certs Adeel
Current thread:
- Re: GIAC Dilution, (continued)
- Re: GIAC Dilution adeel hussain (Mar 21)
- Re: GIAC Dilution Aman Raheja (Mar 23)
- Re: GIAC Dilution Vladamir (Mar 24)
- Re: GIAC Dilution Aman Raheja (Mar 24)
- Re: GIAC Dilution Vladamir (Mar 24)
- Re: GIAC Dilution Daniel Miessler (Mar 28)
- Re: GIAC Dilution Michael Bartha (Mar 29)
- Re: GIAC Dilution adeel hussain (Mar 21)