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RE: The ugly side of using disk encryption
From: "Hagen, Eric" <hagene () DenverNewspaperAgency com>
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:02:06 -0600
I am firmly of the belief that it is a corruption of justice to use the judicial system to seek revenge, or "provide closure" for a victim's family. It is intended to offer guidance, rehabilitation and in the worst cases (like this one) to remove the offender from the public. I have been close friend to a victim of a very nasty case of a similar nature, but i stand firm by my belief that this is not the way it should be regarded. For the benefit of the list (being technical in nature), I propose we wrap up this discussion as it is a philosophical disagreement rather than a technical one. I think making encryption a crime, regardless of the circumstances is contrary to civiand often done for the wrong reasons and I'll leave it at that. Eric PS smart criminals store their information in a hidden partition and get around this whole thing.... and we're back to "minor" crimials getting tagged... or so the theory goes. -----Original Message----- From: Saqib Ali [mailto:docbook.xml () gmail com] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:03 PM To: Hagen, Eric; kurt.buff () gmail com; Ozgur Ozdemircili; knobdy () gmail com; robert.d.holtz () gmail com; theguitarizt () gmail com Cc: security-basics Subject: Re: The ugly side of using disk encryption On 10/19/06, Hagen, Eric <hagene () denvernewspaperagency com> wrote:
How about if you cleaned up the scene of a crime so that it was nearly impossible to identify you as the culprit? Should this be prosecutable? You were using gloves and a mop to attempt to cover up misdeeds. Is this a crime? Should it be a crime? How does encryption differ?
No, it is very different. In this case a pedophile is using encryption to illegally hold back information from the law enforcement agencies - the information that can be used to solve several crimes and bring closure to victim's families. What you are talking about is completely off-topic. What I am talking about is when a criminal is "already convicted" the DA can make deals with the pedophile in exchange of leniency in sentencing. My proposal give more leverage to the office of DA to make these kinds of deals. If you are the family of a victim wouldn't you want to some kind of closure even if the pedophile is already behind bars for a different case? Remember: "The art of policing is, in order not to punish often, to punish severely" -- Saqib Ali, CISSP, ISSAP http://www.full-disk-encryption.net --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by: Norwich University EARN A MASTER OF SCIENCE IN INFORMATION ASSURANCE - ONLINE The NSA has designated Norwich University a center of Academic Excellence in Information Security. Our program offers unparalleled Infosec management education and the case study affords you unmatched consulting experience. Using interactive e-Learning technology, you can earn this esteemed degree, without disrupting your career or home life. http://www.msia.norwich.edu/secfocus ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current thread:
- Re: The ugly side of using disk encryption, (continued)
- Re: The ugly side of using disk encryption Saqib Ali (Oct 19)
- Re: The ugly side of using disk encryption John Miller (Oct 20)
- Re: The ugly side of using disk encryption Brian Loe (Oct 20)
- Re: The ugly side of using disk encryption Saqib Ali (Oct 20)
- Re: The ugly side of using disk encryption Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers (Oct 20)
- Re: The ugly side of using disk encryption Saqib Ali (Oct 19)
- RE: The ugly side of using disk encryption Dan Anderson (Oct 20)
- RE: The ugly side of using disk encryption Robert D. Holtz - Lists (Oct 20)
- -Real- anonymity (was: The ugly side of using disk encryption) Michael Painter (Oct 20)
- Re: The ugly side of using disk encryption Saqib Ali (Oct 20)
- Re: RE: The ugly side of using disk encryption qxlr (Oct 23)
- RE: RE: The ugly side of using disk encryption Henry Troup (Oct 23)
- RE: The ugly side of using disk encryption Will Yonker (Oct 27)