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Re: Security Jobs


From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:03:32 -0400

 I have used vulnerability scanners and feel I have a strong
 understanding what the results mean not only from a technology
 perspective but a business impact perspective as well.
I've always felt that the difference between a average/good tester and
great tester is that the great tester can find vulnerabilities. He/she
does not need others to find a vulnerability and then wait for someone
to write a Nessus/MetaSploit/<favorite framework here> plugin.

Jeff

On 6/2/09, Curt Shaffer <cshaffer () gmail com> wrote:
Thank you all for your input. I am going to attempt to include points from
 each in this response:

 I do have experience and exposure to a lot of security pieces. I have done
 firewall installations of many varieties for small companies to ISP level
 services. I have done the same with IDS/IPS deployment from SNORT to
 TippingPoint. I have dealt with email security, again from small businesses
 to ISP level services including AntiSPAM/AntiVirus and encryption. I have
 worked with AntiVirus/IPS clients in the same arenas. I have used
 vulnerability scanners and feel I have a strong understanding what the
 results mean not only from a technology perspective but a business impact
 perspective as well. I have assisted in getting a Microsoft partner higher
 levels by contributing security competencies with an implementation of
 wireless that included certificates and RAIDUS using Microsoft's version of
 each of those. On top of all of that, no matter what I have done in the
 sysadmin role, it has always been based on security best practices.

 All of that said, in addition to my recent training in penetration testing
 from SANS and upcoming training for the CISSP, I think I have done what a
 lot of you have recommended. This is all on my resume but as Stephen
 mentioned, maybe I need to spin it a little more than I have. Obviously not
 lying but focusing even more on these things I have done and leaving off
 some of the other. I have always reiterated these things in the interview,
 but again it would come across like "great we need a system guy that is
 security focused", but again not what I would consider a true security job.
 The security job I seek is one that is about security in one way or another
 all day long as it is my passion.

 Someone mentioned doing auditing. I cannot see myself just doing audits. I
 feel penetration testing is more of an appeal to me. Either that, or being
 the security input on many pieces of the network like VoIP, network, and
 systems or both :) Someone else mentioned Jr. Security Analyst. I know I
 don't deserve the ultimate security job right off the cuff and I must pay
 more dues, but I would like to think after the experience I do have, I am
 worth more than they would pay for that and should deserve a little higher
 entry than that. Also, I live in the DC metro area so a huge pay cut
 wouldn't make life very easy as some of you may know it is pretty expensive
 to live around here.

 Overall I think I will attempt to modify my resume a little more and repost
 it in the usual places. I think I will also try to make it more of a point
 to attend conferences and such related to security to get my network built
 up there as well. Thank you all for your input and ideas, you all have given
 me a lot to think about!

 [SNIP]

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