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RE: Botmasters/Victims and DMCA


From: "Ian Bradshaw" <ian () ianbradshaw net>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:43:13 +0100

" thanks to the negligence of the owner"

maybe worth looking at unsecured wifi legal cases? not the same I know, but
close in terms of idiot end users.

I.

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From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On
Behalf Of Lane Christiansen
Sent: 16 September 2009 02:15
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Botmasters/Victims and DMCA

On Tuesday 15 September 2009 10:09:40 am Viva Colombia wrote:
Hi all, my question (for a legal paper that I'm writing) is whether a 
botmaster and a person whose computer has been recruited in a botnet 
can be considered as service providers, according to the broader 
definition of service provider provided by 17 USCĀ§512(k)(A-B). I've 
found court decisions and some opinions, but none refer to botmasters, 
they would only allow me to conclude that if theirs is an IRC botnet 
and they provide, for example, chatting services through their command 
& control bots, then they would indeed be service providers as per the 
DMCA; but I found nothing related to whether peers in P2P botnets or 
networks can be taken as service providers, bearing in mind that they 
are used as storing devices and communications or transmittal nodes.

I'm trying to analyze whether they could be held liable for violations 
of the Copyright Act when said violations take place through and 
thanks to the botnets and thanks to the negligence of the owner of the 
infected machine (who did not protect it appropriately), and if they 
two could successfully use the safe harbor provisions on their behalf.

I hope I'm not too confusing...

Thx!
I can't comment on this (IANAL), but I'd be very interested in reading your
paper - it'd be awesome if you could post it here when you're finished!



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