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RE: What Local Server Rights are needed for SQL DBAs?


From: "Eggleston, Mark" <meggleston () healthpart com>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:17:03 -0400

They are mostly doing SQL work from their desktops, but are moving in a direction to perform client-server application 
dev work now too.

So I believe we'll move forward with making the DBA group part of the local remote users group but not part of the 
local admin group.

Thanks again,

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: craig.wilson () redtray co uk [mailto:craig.wilson () redtray co uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:38 PM
To: Eggleston, Mark; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: What Local Server Rights are needed for SQL DBAs?

Hi Mark,

Might be pertinent to ask what they are looking to do on the servers.  DBA work would normally only require rights to 
the db which would normally be performed on a pc other than the server.  Are they doing application development too 
where software runs on the server or interacts with it?

Craig

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Eggleston, Mark" <meggleston () HEALTHPART COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:16:09
To: <craig.wilson () redtray co uk>; <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Subject: RE: What Local Server Rights are needed for SQL DBAs?

Thank you Craig - very helpful.

We indeed do have a DBA Team and a Network/server team.  We do also have a dev/uat/live environment for some SQL 
instances.  Anyone else care to comment regarding documentations on how to set up appropriate rights in SQL and/or 
servers?

Regards,

Mark

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From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of craig.wilson () redtray co 
uk
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:06 AM
To: Eggleston, Mark; listbounce () securityfocus com; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: What Local Server Rights are needed for SQL DBAs?

Hi mark

Depends how draconian you want to be and the setup of your teams.  If you have a DBA team and also server and 
infrastructure teams then I would normally have any config changes on the servers themselves go to the server team.

For DBA work they only need rights to make changes to the database, not to the underlying OS.
The rights you described abové, save local admins, are enough for that.

In my experience the problem with app and DB developers having local admins rights is that corners are often cut in 
order to make something work.  

That leads to another point: assuming you are employing a dev\uat\live architecture and any amendments go via change 
management then access to dev should generally allow for local admin rights.

Craig
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Eggleston, Mark" <meggleston () healthpart com>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:15:22
To: <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Subject: What Local Server Rights are needed for SQL DBAs?

Hello Colleagues,

I need some help finding good documentation (i.e. best or standard
practice) for deciding what appropriate rights are really needed for a DBA to perform his or her duties (Win 2003, SQL 
2005/8).  Can anyone point me to a good reference as my google searches have not provided an authoritative conclusion.

Currently we have our Database Administration Group as local admins on those servers hosting SQL... However, is the 
serveradmin role required?
Our Manager of this group has indicated that DBA certainly require these server specific roles: setupadmin; 
processadmin; dbcreator.  

Thanks in advance for sharing how you may have tackled this issue at your company or a methodology on how to pursue.

Thanks,

Mark Eggleston
Manager, Security and Business Continuity 

 
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