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Re: Comparison of THC-SCAN v2.0 with Sandstorm PhoneSweep 1.02
From: mouse () RODENTS MONTREAL QC CA (der Mouse)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:38:57 -0500
If Aleph One will print an ad from Sandstorm, I hope he'll print a minor rant/rebuttal....
(And our licensing and evaluation policies have so far been successful at keeping the product out of the hands of "hackers/phreakers.")
How would you know?
[...] What follows are the most salient points from that comparison.
Based on who wrote this, I have to cut *some* slack. But sheesh, this thing reads like a marketroid's "press release" ad!
THC-SCAN was developed by The Hacker's Choice, [...] Support is not available.
Excuse me? I thought it came with source code. That alone is far better support than I have ever, *ever*, gotten from *any* binary-only vendor. Based on my experience with both vendor support and free software support, I would also lay long odds that the support available for THC-SCAN from its developer(s) and users is more available, more responsive, quite likely more reliable, and most certainly more worth the cost than whatever may be available from Sandstorm for their product. It seems disingenuous at best to claim "support is not available" merely because no formalized support-for-money system is in place.
3.9 ODBC Support [THC-SCAN v2.0...claims ODBC but doesn't do it] PhoneSweep 1.02, on the other hand, [does]
Of course, we have only your word for that, since - unlike THC-SCAN - you don't let us compare your claims against reality. Given how much unsubstantiated puffery I've heard from vendors in the past, I trust you'll forgive me a healthy dose of skepticism here.
* full source code!Source code for Sandstorm PhoneSweep is restricted to prevent unauthorized use.
You're deluding yourself if you think restricting source code will make a significant difference. Once an ethics-free individual with a modicum of skill and inclination sits down with the binary, your dongles will shortly be pointless - read the Jargon File entry for "copy protection". All you've really done is make it impossible for legitimate users to self-support. Hmm, you're selling support. I can't help feeling this is unlikely to be a coincidence. Not that it matters to me personally; I'm not in the market for either product, and if I were I probably would toss together my own 'cause it'd be quicker do that than porting THC-SCAN, and I'm not about to get an Intel box just to run a phone scanner on. But I can't let this ad go unremarked-upon. der Mouse mouse () rodents montreal qc ca 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B
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- Re: Comparison of THC-SCAN v2.0 with Sandstorm PhoneSweep 1.02 nimrood (Dec 29)
- Re: Comparison of THC-SCAN v2.0 with Sandstorm PhoneSweep 1.02 Josh Bailey (Dec 30)
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