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Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage
From: "David Heigl" <davidh () braunlift com>
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:23:36 -0500
You know, this topic is quickly getting out of hand, but I can't help but wonder what you were doing spewing 6.5 gigabytes of incriminating data around on a link with a minute of latency, just so you wouldn't have to store it locally... Or perhaps you meant that you have a ~11 million mile long reel of fiber in your basement? Dave Heigl erst-while troll and nay-sayer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Wash" <rwash () citi umich edu> To: "Nicholas Weaver" <nweaver () CS berkeley edu> Cc: "Alun Jones" <alun () texis com>; "'Wojciech Purczynski'" <cliph () isec pl>; "'Michal Zalewski'" <lcamtuf () coredump cx>; <bugtraq () securityfocus com>; <secpapers () securityfocus com>; <vulnwatch () vulnwatch org>; <vulndiscuss () vulnwatch org>; <full-disclosure () netsys com> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 12:03:20PM -0700, Nicholas Weaver wrote:So who cares? Why juggle when shelves hold so much more?Just because you and I don't have a use for this doesn't make it useless. This technique has one advantage that I can see being very useful -- it is easy to delete large amounts of data quickly. Imagine you hear the feds knocking on your door -- you just unplug your fiber, and let all the light (aka your data) fly out into the room. Your data is gone, permanently. If the latency is a minute, then it only takes a minute to delete
everything
-- all 6.5 GB of data according to your calculations. Show me another method that can delete 6.5 GB a data in a completely unrecoverable manner that quickly. Hard drives need to be overwritten many times, but even
then
they can still likely be recovered with enough money put toward it. Rick
Current thread:
- [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Wojciech Purczynski (Oct 06)
- RE: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Alun Jones (Oct 08)
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Nicholas Weaver (Oct 08)
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Rick Wash (Oct 08)
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage David Heigl (Oct 08)
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Doug Moen (Oct 08)
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Michal Zalewski (Oct 08)
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Aron Nimzovitch (Oct 09)
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Nicholas Weaver (Oct 08)
- Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 08)
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Michal Zalewski (Oct 08)
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Eugen Leitl (Oct 08)
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage der Mouse (Oct 09)
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Darren Reed (Oct 10)
- RE: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Alun Jones (Oct 08)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Adeel Hussain (Oct 09)
- Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Brandon Eisenmann (Oct 10)