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Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked
From: Rick Crelia <rick.crelia () oregonstate edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:56:20 -0800
Well, it's been a while since I had statistics, but I'd say those observed deltas for the Op-Scan Precinct table look mighty damn improbable, especially compared to the corresponding numbers in the table for the Touch Screen votes: http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that much, nor to expect a similar pattern of results between the two data sets given their otherwise strongly shared commonalities. Ok, maybe a science-oriented person, but definitely not a NASA guru. I think it's relevant to Bugtraq at least as much as anything Diebold-related has been before the election. Before, we simply had a bunch of conspiracy theories about a oddly designed voting system from a less than forthcoming corporation which tried to cover up the (now public) exposure of myriad security problems with said system. Of course, now there's a little more at stake than just conspiracy theories about big bad companies and crappy software. It's about the integrity of our national elections. I am a big fan of *lots* of discussion when it comes to the topic of someone possibly playing parlor games with the electorate and our political welfare. No matter which candidate wins an election, the results should be supportable by a verifiable, immutable audit trail from vote to tabulation. With the use of central tabulation systems from Diebold and what we know about them (and did know about them prior to 11/2/2004) we do not have that sort of audit trail. --rc -- *========================================* Rick Crelia - rick.crelia () oregonstate edu OSU Libraries - Dept of Library Technology Corvallis, OR 97331 - 541.737.8972 p.s. BTW, your PGP key sig below doesn't match the one on your website, so I have to assume that this post was from the guy who has presumably been jacking your sig, according to the note on your home page. On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 10:55:34AM -0800, Jay D. Dyson spake thusly:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Atom 'Smasher' wrote:Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was HackedRead the whole thing and didn't see any evidence. Just wild speculation and baseless conjecture. Hell, there were countless counties across the nation in which more people were registered to vote than were eligible residents, but -- for some reason -- that ain't news. Why was this politically-motivated nonsense approved for Bugtraq? The Democrats lost. Get over it already. - -Jay ( ( _______ )) )) .-"There's always time for a good cup of coffee"-. >====<--. C|~~|C|~~| (>----- Jay D. Dyson -- jdyson () treachery net -----<) | = |-' `--' `--' `------ Burn me up and I'll burn you down. ------' `------' -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (TreacherOS) Comment: See http://www.treachery.net/~jdyson/ for current keys. iD8DBQFBkRKqBYoRACwSF0cRAiAYAJ9bLRE5f7tj5+eNnG6MxN6IWz1fBQCgu6f+ 0Lyb/rZfle+xo51p7isdwjc= =2a4A -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Current thread:
- Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked Atom 'Smasher' (Nov 09)
- Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked Jay D. Dyson (Nov 09)
- Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked Jei (Nov 10)
- Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked bkfsec (Nov 10)
- Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked Jake Appelbaum (Nov 11)
- Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked Atom 'Smasher' (Nov 10)
- Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked Rick Crelia (Nov 10)
- Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked Peter Conrad (Nov 10)
- Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked Jay D. Dyson (Nov 10)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked David Hayden (Nov 11)
- Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked Jay D. Dyson (Nov 09)