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RE: Joint encryption?


From: "David Schwartz" <davids () webmaster com>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:13:59 -0800


The authentication works as below:

 - N users may authenticate to access the data
 - A magnitude M of authenticated users is needed to access the data
 - N >= 3 > M >= 2

The case where N = 1 is simple authentication; the case where N = M is
an easily solvable problem in the scope I'm looking at.  I'm interested
in the case where N > M and the data is encrypted.

 - Key is fragmented
 - Fragments are indpendently encrypted
 - Each user who can authenticate can decrypt PART of the key, but not
all of it
 - M of the N users are needed to decrypt enough of the key to access
the key in total

The problem is that I need a guaranteed way to create data for any valid
N and M where N >= 3 > M >= 2 in which access to M fragments of the key
(each fragment is encrypted) can be used to gain access to the rest of
the fragments, which in turn allows any selection of M users to
authenticate and gain physical access to the key.

Reminder that the idea here is to use a physical method, not bare access
control that can be evaded by loading a modified kernel.

The most obvious methods I can think of create explosive data growth as
M and N increase.  The amount of data needed in any way I can think of
grows linearly with M and exponentially with N.

Are there any known ways to do this?

        There's a ludicrously simple and incredibly brilliant way to do this. For a polynomial of order N, you need N 
points on the polynomial to find the equation that describes the polynomial. So if you want to share a secret amount 28 
people such that any 15 are needed to know it, just make the secret the coefficients of a 15th order polynomial and 
compute 28 points that satisfy the polynomial.

        So, for the 28/15 example, pick 15 random coefficients (C1, C2, C3, ...), and then your 28 pieces of the key 
(K1 ... K25) are the solutions to:

Kx = C1 + C2 * x + C3 * x^2 + C3 * x^3 ... C15 * x^14

        For x=1 to 28.

        With any 15 solutions to the equation above, you can compute C1 through C15. With any 14, you can't even get 
started.

        DS

        

        DS



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