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Re: LAMP vs Microsoft
From: Bob Beck <beck () bofh cns ualberta ca>
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:03:20 -0600
You're confusing what I'm interested in (platform security) with
No, I'm not confusing it at all, I'm saying it's a non-issue. Any Von Neuman type of architecture is "secure" - it does exactly what you tell it to do. If you don't tell it to do insecure things. it does not. If it's not deterministic, then fine, you have an issue.
the people who use the platform to develop on top of. If the foundations of what you're using are insecure, then the web developer has a harder task.
I disagree. I think most modern computing platforms start out as "secure" within their limitations if you understand them. It's code written for them that is the problem, plain and simple. The more complexity you add what you implement on top of a platform, the more bugs you add in the implementation, and the more opportunity for people not to understand the side effects. But I expect to see a great market for people reinventing the wheel for people who don't understand that life is pain, and anyone who says otherwise is selling something. Oh, and since you mention it, I doubt anyone the OpenBSD mob would disagree with what I'm saying, or that I would care if they did. Unlike the corporate world there are still some free projects that allow for participants to speak their mind freely and not toe the party line. Of course, I haven't yet asked what you're selling. Sounds to me like it's another effort to convince the unwitting that life isn't pain and blow SuNshine up their posteriors. -Bob
Current thread:
- LAMP vs Microsoft Darren Reed (Jul 10)
- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft Jarrod Frates (Jul 10)
- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft Bob Beck (Jul 10)
- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft Darren Reed (Jul 15)
- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft Bob Beck (Jul 15)
- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft Darren Reed (Jul 15)
- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft Bob Beck (Jul 15)
- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft Bob Beck (Jul 18)
- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft Darren Reed (Jul 22)
- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft Darren Reed (Jul 15)
- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft George Capehart (Jul 18)
- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft Darren Reed (Jul 18)
- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft Hugo van der Kooij (Jul 18)
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- Re: LAMP vs Microsoft Steven M. Christey (Jul 12)