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Re: VA Vendor Tip?


From: "The Sun" <sun () vakharia info>
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 23:30:54 +0530

I have used Retina, Internet Scanner, GFI LNSS, and Nessus. Recently I evaluated QualysGuard and would recommend it 
over all the others.
I have heard that nCircle has a good VA product too.

The reporting is excellent. Plus the updates are very quick.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jeff Moore 
  To: dailydave () lists immunitysec com 
  Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok co uk ; Higgins () DarkReading com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:14 PM
  Subject: [Dailydave] VA Vendor Tip?


  Does anyone on the list have a good recommendation for a VA software vendor?  I am currently an eEye Retina customer 
but need to find a better solution with an actual development team in place to support that solution.  Is Tenable a 
good choice? 


  http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=125486&WT.svl=news1_4

  "Preview represents the third "pillar" of eEye's business, says Marc Maiffret, CTO and chief hacking officer for 
eEye, joining its flagship Retina Network Scanner and Blink endpoint security software. eEye made a name for itself 
after discovering, and naming, the infamous CodeRed worm in 2001. " 

  Third pillar?  The other two pillars are crumbling so they set up a third one to prop up what is left.  As a Retina 
customer I am very dissatisfied to see that eEye just fired the entire team responsible for Retina including guys like 
Ryan Permeh.  They also cut their QA team which will make bad products even worse.  Their engineering staff is down to 
three or four guys and they want to jump in the professional services game? 

  What research team are you trying to sell?  The only researcher you have left is this guy - 
http://datarescue.com/idabase/hallofshame.html and of course chief hacking officer who has never discovered a bug.  

  "eEye made a name for itself after discovering, and naming, the infamous CodeRed worm in 2001. "

  It is now 2007.  What have you done lately eEye?  I don't think anyone cares that you "discovered" a 6 year old worm. 
 Your customers want stability and a future not a scheme (preview) for your VC to grab some extra cash before they turn 
out the lights. 

  So while you are chasing 50K from those who are still impressed by CodeRed and stolen copies of IDA your core 
customers, those who you have abandoned like you did the engineers responsible for those products will take their money 
to other more stable vendors that offer some sort of stability. 

  Maybe is time to throw in the towel.  If Retina is the flagship then that ship has sailed into some rocks and sunk.

  -J


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