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Helio Ocean Review
From: Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:48:43 -0400
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 A Helio Ocean Review from a Sidekick 3 user's perspective So the Helio Ocean is a "semi-smart" phone much like the Sidekick 3. In this day and age, the Sidekick needs massive updating to compete with the features of any modern phone and T-Mobile is too dumb to replace broken Sidekick's for free for long time users. So I got a Helio Ocean. Here are a list of features the Helio Ocean has the Sidekick does not. Keep in mind both phones cost pretty much the same thing, although you can get a Sidekick for as low as $99 with a new two year contract from T-Mobile (which is crazy - they should be free since they're as old as the hills, but whatever). Helio Ocean features that beat the Sidekick: o GPS+Google Maps App. This has saved my ass at least once when lost in Dallas with a cabbie intent on ripping me off. Extremely usable application - you can say things like "Sushi near me" and find your local sushi restaurants. Works great even inside since it uses the cell phone towers to triangulate you. This is essentially a killer app, the second killer app being the Video Camera+YouTube integration. I'd try "Buddy Beacon" which tells all your friends where you are, but I don't have friends with Helio phones. Everyone else seems to have either an iPhone or a TracPhone (30 bucks from CVS) o Video camera and normal camera that does not suck like the Sidekick's does o number pad for dialing phone numbers (whee!) o Lots more applications you can download, but you'll never use any of them because they want an astonishing 3 dollars a day for most of them. So this doesn't count. o "3G" I know people want this, but frankly, it's not worth even listing as a "Feature" since it's no faster than anything else you've ever used. This doesn't count either. I've tested the iPhone, and it's just as fast, if not faster. o Cheap and good plans. Nothing from Helio will break your piggy bank. They don't nickle and dime you the way AT&T does if you buy an iPhone, and the overall plan is cheaper than T-Mobile's. o Better phone call quality. o Good customer support from cheery southern chicks (T-Mobile is also quite good). None of the customer support at Helio appeared to have ever used the Helio Ocean, but some of the second level support had and could answer questions like "Why doesn't file download work" with "You need a microsd card" o Helio UP lets you automatically upload videos to YouTube. This is pretty awesome really. Works well for daily videos of your small child for the extended family. You can have the phone tag the videos with the geolocation theoretically, although I can't figure out how to get that data back from YouTube. o Helio UP sends pictures to MySpace. I'm not sure why you'd want them on MySpace rather than say, Google Picasa. There's no Google Picasa option. I find I never use this. The downsides of the Helio Ocean are: o Slightly worse keyboard than sidekick. Not horrible, just slightly worse. o The GUI is terrible. Why a cell phone GUI should have lag is something I've never understood. I should not be typing on the AIM client and have it start missing characters because I'm typing too fast. Is the thing doing character mode and sending each character to the server? That would be insane, but I'm not ruling it out. o Basic UI design concepts are missing from the Helio designer's brains. For example, most people on the Sidekick will load a web page by hitting the "Web Browser" button, then typing an address, and then they will put the sidekick back into their pocket and come back to it later when the web page is there. Or perhaps they will AIM for a bit while the web page loads. This is impossible on the Helio since it runs one application at a time. Starting and stopping the web browser takes about 10 seconds, which is infuriating once you start wanting to use it. o Gmail doesn't appear to accept my password so I can't use GMail on the phone. Not sure why. Tech support has no idea either. o When the Helio is running the web browser, that's all it does. If you close the phone, the web browser app closes too. This is retarded beyond belief. Was opera too expensive to license or something? The web browser is the worst thing ever. It's slightly faster than the GPRS the Sidekick uses, but navigating on it is nearly impossible. Useful only for reading headlines on Google News. Slashdot is impossible on it, but digg works well. o The camera app has some very strange bugs. Examples: o Using the camera vertically can only do 300X200 (crappy). Using it horizontally with the keyboard out works really well. o You have to choose between External (MicroSD - 1Gig for 30 bucks at Circuit City) or Internal storage. You cannot copy photos or videos from Internal to your Mac using USB. You can copy them from External, but you cannot email things or use "Helio UP" from External. So either way you're screwed. There's a 2.5 meg limit (30 seconds) on videos when you want to email them to yourself or "helio up" them. So I recommend using "Internal" and then only moving things externally when you want to copy them to your hard drive. This is awkward, to say the least. o Built in email and text messenging is slightly worse than Sidekicks. Only downloads first 1000 characters of emails for example. Just essentially worse applications here in every way. o No way to easily say "Get me a new GPS location" while in Google Maps application other than restarting application. IN CONCLUSION: The iPhone has no GPS or Video camera, or AIM, and is horribly expensive. If they added a GPS and Video Camera and someone finished a nice AIM application that runs in their web browser, they'd be best-of-breed in every area. Overall Helio Ocean is not a terrible phone. It's a good phone, with a terrible UI and web browser. GPS and YouTube integration will make you like it while you wait for Apple to get iPhone version 2.0 out the door. But if I had to purchase it again, I'd probably get an iPhone. - -dave -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGzwvpB8JNm+PA+iURApf0AKDG7B9VEUGYmTzqBlkk94caqk/+HwCgjleE TmuXW1jJGaVBRuPE4tZhnKo= =73wi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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