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Re: Dep and aslr and /gs and so on


From: Jeremy Brown <0xjbrown41 () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:21 -0400

Agreed, Dave. But when a company such as Microsoft, in this example,
keeps adding protections to Windows instead of implementing possibly a
central kernel base to keep things relative and smooth, then clutter
and chaos are free to unite (and ignite). From the Linux perspective,
all around, things seem to be done more efficiently. Are applications
more secure on Linux? Not really. But a result of protections readily
available on Linux distributions (honorable mentioned on BSD
derivatives and Solaris) has nearly diminished public exploits for
applications that result in stack smashing or otherwise memory-related
exploitation.

2009/3/26 Dave Aitel <dave.aitel () gmail com>:
So over and over for several years now you can hear people in the offensive
information security talk in despair about the new Microsoft protection
measures. But here's the thing as I see it - if you tell yourself its
impossible, then it definitely will be.  As Joe Bennet from "Lipstick
Jungle" would say: "Plan for success!".

All of the new security technologies coming out total a one or two order of
magnitude increase in an attacker's costs. That's not impossible, that's
just inflation. So deal.

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