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Re: Hacking critical infrastructure.
From: Andrew Ruef <munin () mimisbrunnr net>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 11:10:51 -0400
some would probably argue that this is a game theory equilibrium where you wouldn't place the tokens willy-nilly precisely for this reason. they would probably try to resurrect examples from the cold war or something where this game theory and top down policy / control "worked" once before. cynically, I think this presupposes more self control than any modern government or organization has. the stakes/risks (either perceived or actual) just aren't high enough for an adult to wake up and tell everyone what to do. if such a system were actually implemented, I'd wager that it would play out the way you describe - the existence of these "don'thackmebro!" tokens would not be a well kept secret, they would leak, and every mid-level manager from here to lightbulb factories in Kansas would demand, steal, or forge these tokens until they were on everything from nuclear power stations to red light traffic cameras. there's just no will to control it any other way. On 03/15/2016 09:44 AM, Konrads Smelkovs wrote:
The logical conclusion of placing "don'thackmebro!" tokens on sensitive computers is that every GOV computer even remotely concerned with the notion of the critical infrastructure will have it leaving your adversary no choice to ignore them. -- Konrads Smelkovs Applied IT sorcery. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:31 PM, dave aitel <dave () immunityinc com> wrote:http://cybersecpolitics.blogspot.com/2016/03/cyber-norms-futility-of-blacklisting.html If you disagree with this post, please spam here instead of twitter, which has only terse horribleness as its argument protocols. :) -dave _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunityinc com https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave_______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunityinc com https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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- Hacking critical infrastructure. dave aitel (Mar 14)
- Re: Hacking critical infrastructure. Konrads Smelkovs (Mar 15)
- Re: Hacking critical infrastructure. dave aitel (Mar 15)
- Re: Hacking critical infrastructure. Andrew Ruef (Mar 15)
- Re: Hacking critical infrastructure. Konrads Smelkovs (Mar 16)
- Re: Hacking critical infrastructure. Konrads Smelkovs (Mar 15)