Re: Celebrations

[Jared DeMott <jdemott () vdalabs com>]

To go a step further, there's actually many Believers in our field -- and
often there's an informal church service/bible study/sharing time -- that
will get put together if a given security conference falls over a Sunday
morning. :)  I've enjoyed many of those.
Jared

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:49 AM, David Aitel <dave () immunityinc com> wrote:

> [image: drinky1][image: drinky2]
>
> So today I'm going over the reports released at Kaspersky's SAS conference
> and for some reason the images of people drinking on stage stuck out at me.
> I think it's because half my facebook feed, when I bother to log in to see
> what the schedule at the local BJJ gym is, is people in *our community*
> talking about their recovery from addiction.
>
> I know DefCon has this tradition of drinking on stage too, and GCon did,
> of course, as have many other conferences I've been to.
>
> Conferences are partially celebrations. And drinking is part of
> celebrating, for a lot of people, but it's always been weird in our culture
> because for so long we were all so young (and so overwhelmingly male). I
> don't know about you, but it's always seemed insane to me when people post
> tweets about how they're drinking to commemorate Barnaby Jack's death as if
> that wasn't the very shit that killed him.
>
> INFILTRATE has open bars - basically during the whole conference. But we
> also have non-alcoholic cocktails and drinks the whole time and we don't
> drink on stage because it's not great for new, younger members of the
> community to link technical excellence and addiction. This isn't "Drunken
> Master 5: iOS return-to-libc". This is hard stuff now and spending two days
> a year talking to the top of the offensive community about their plans for
> the year, and what didn't work last year, sometimes requires a mostly-sober
> headspace.
>
> Although we don't advertise it heavily, we have a huge uptake this year in
> our non-alcohol included INFILTRATE ticket. It's at a small discount from
> the main ticket price, but I don't think that's why people are buying it.
>
> Anyways, it's something to think about while we piece over what we know
> and don't know about SLINGSHOT and SOFACY...
> -dave
>
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Thanks,

Dr. Jared DeMott
Founder, VDA Labs
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