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From: "TSG" <tglassey () earthlink net>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:30:08 -0700


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "TSG" <tglassey () earthlink net>
To: "Edward White" <ewhite () avrenter com>
Cc: <dataloss () attrition org>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Dataloss] Data breach notification survey


I like this idea Edward - but I am going to put on my devils' advocate hat 
here and push back.

Don't get the wrong idea - I want to proceed with your suggestion but I 
also want to point out some other things...


Todd

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward White" <ewhite () avrenter com>
To: "TSG" <tglassey () earthlink net>
Cc: <dataloss () attrition org>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: [Dataloss] Data breach notification survey


Todd and All who would like to make a difference,
Let's break the problem into its component parts

1) Personal Data held by companies

TSG: Which is constrained by the different regulatory frameworks.

2) Personal data out in the open

Let's put all of our ideas together to fix the problem with breaches of
personal data and craft a letter that will put our ideas into action.

TSG: the key to all of this is that the industry is still reeling from its 
SOX spanking's. Those were the huge costs that it cost to become SOX 
compliance. The problem is it wasnt SOX that was the culprate - it was the 
sloppy and uncontrolled methods that people used to use to try and scate 
around the sides of the requirement's. The issue isnt SOX or any other 
Federal Law other than the Rules of Evidence which are where the rubber 
meets the road. What people are pushing back against is the costs of 
meeting the new Digital Evidence Competency costs and my reaction to many 
of them is that as an Auditor I will not sign off on their external's 
without this in place.

TSG: As a shareholder My response would be a littel different - I may 
litigate their gross negligence as well unless they come up with a strong 
Evidence Capture and Anti-spoliation Position and Practice.

I know the right senators office to start with and then will get their
input for a final letter that I will hand deliver to every Senators and
Congressman's office in Washington, DC

It may take 6 months to a year + to get the ideas into Law.  This is our
Country and the Senate and the Congress work for us.  Let's fix the
issue.

TSG: The issue is easily fixed through civil litigation under Qui Tam. 
Trust me - most civil attorney's dont see this one, but if you properly 
analyze the US Law you will find that Qui Tam under the False Claims Act 
is huge. For instance ALL of the ENRON Victims probably still have 
recovery rights against the officers of ENRON itself. Likewise would any 
of those shareholders of company's who were dinged in the back-dating 
scandle as well...

There are many smart people in this country and we need to rise to the
challenge.

Thanks
Ed


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