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Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music!
From: "Bruhn, Mark S." <mbruhn () INDIANA EDU>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 10:16:20 -0500
"Last Oct. 1, the first day the university turned on Icarus, it caught 1,500 violators. In the months since then, it tracked down an additional 2,500 first-time violators, 400 second-time violators, and seven third-time violators, who were cut off from the university's Internet connection for 30 days and sent to the student judiciary, with a notice placed in their permanent academic records." Violators? What they discovered was 1500 p2p application users, right? While I'm not naive enough to think that the vast majority of those weren't sharing copyrighted materials without permission, can they all be called "violators" like that, as a result of an automated process? Were each of these students contacted and given an opportunity to explain what they were actually doing? Seems like after that conversation would be the point at which they might be labeled "violators." Like all of us, students need to be responsible and held accountable for their own behavior, and once illegal behavior facilitated by a campus network is reported, that situation needs to be dealt with. But, we should still respect due process, and stay consistent in our approach to student behaviors and subsequent judical processes. (Is it really true that George Washington University and the University of Southern California were both named, as institutions, in law suits filed by the RIAA? Or (more likely) were students at those universities individually targeted?) M. -- Mark S. Bruhn, CISSP, CISM Chief IT Security and Policy Officer Associate Director, Center for Applied Cybersecurity Research (http://cacr.iu.edu <http://cacr.iu.edu/> ) Office of the Vice President for Information Technology and CIO Indiana University 812-855-0326 Incidents involving IU IT resources: it-incident () iu edu Complaints/kudos about OVPIT/UITS services: itombuds () iu edu -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Security Discussion Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Jere Retzer Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:33 AM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: [SECURITY] WSJ.com - Stop the Music! <http://stats.clickability.com/t.gif?19=313&7=150> <http://images.clickability.com/eti/spacer.gif> <http://images.clickability.com/eti/spacer.gif> WSJ.com <http://www.wsj.com> <http://images.clickability.com/logos/336699/emailthis-logo.gif> <http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/interactive.wsj.com/email_this_template; sz=88x31;abr=!ie4;abr=!ie5;ord=[timestamp]?> * Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. <http://images.clickability.com/eti/spacer.gif> University security efforts gain some publicity <http://images.clickability.com/eti/spacer.gif> Click the following to access the sent link: <http://images.clickability.com/partners/3120/etIcon.gif> WSJ.com - Stop the Music! <http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=viewThis&et MailToID=1064391546> * This article will be available to non-subscribers of the Online Journal for up to seven days after it is e-mailed. SAVE THIS link <http://www.savethis.clickability.com/st/saveThisPopupApp?clickMap=saveF romET&partnerID=150&etMailToID=1064391546> FORWARD THIS link <http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=forward&etM ailToID=1064391546&partnerID=150> Get your EMAIL THIS Browser Button and use it to email information from any Web site. <http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=browserButt ons> <http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/interactive.wsj.com/received_article_not ice;sz=468x60;abr=!ie4;abr=!ie5;ord=123456789?> <http://images.clickability.com/eti/spacer.gif> *This article can also be accessed if you copy and paste the entire address below into your web browser. http://online.wsj.com/wsjgate?subURI=%2Farticle%2F0%2C%2CSB1093218947288 98103%2Demail%2C00%2Ehtml&nonsubURI=%2Farticle%5Femail%2F0%2C%2CSB109321 894728898103%2DIJjeoNhlah3o52uZ4GIaqiHm4%2C00%2Ehtml ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Discussion Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/cg/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Discussion Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/cg/.
Current thread:
- WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Jere Retzer (Aug 23)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Jere Retzer (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Bruhn, Mark S. (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Scott Weeks (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Jordan Wiens (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Bruhn, Mark S. (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Bill Frazier (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Jere Retzer (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Jefferson, Ronnie V. (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Gibbs, Aaron M. (Aug 25)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Scott Bradner (Aug 25)