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Re: Barracuda Spam Filter
From: "Jamie A. Stapleton" <jstapleton () COMPUTER-BUSINESS COM>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:20:21 -0400
We do indeed sell the product. However, I was just trying to answer questions. If this sort of info is not desired, just let me know and I will not reply again. -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld Jamie A. Stapleton CBSi - Connecting your problems with solutions. FlexiCall: (804) 412-1601 Facsimile: (804) 412-1611 A-Key ESN: 1004-8969 -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Keller <kellermg () POTSDAM EDU> To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> Sent: Thu Jul 28 08:12:55 2005 Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Barracuda Spam Filter List, please note that Jamie @ CBSI is a reseller of Barracuda Networks products. On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 20:36 -0400, Jamie A. Stapleton wrote:
Let me do my best to answer these questions. 1) Barracuda's firmware updates the spam assassin engine when there are major updates in the SA engine. The firmware/os is hardened so admins will not be able to install a new kernel or software patch to the engine. 2) The models 300 and above allow Bayesian databases both on the user and admin side (maintained separately). 3) The Barracuda Spam Firewall is easily customizable in terms of the Bayesian filter. The user will have two buttons added to their Email Client which are "Mark Message as Spam" and "Mark Message Not as Spam". The user log-in for the Barracuda is "dummy-proofed" in that, the only options allowed for users is to delete, deliver or white-list messages. 4) You can see the demo site (spam.barracudanetworks.com) for rulesets. 5) The Barracuda can create its' own reports and scores. If you log onto the demo site, this will show you the reporting and scoring capabilities if the unit. Let me know if this is the correct information that you are looking for. 6) Currently there is no direct link/connection to Razor or DCC Networks. Barracuda maintains their own black-list and subscribes to Spamhaus, Spamcop, And ordb. 7) Currently the Barracuda does not support Gray-listing. This is to reduce the chances of false-positives. The product also does anti-virus. Jamie In Ashland, VA ;-) (804) 412-1601 (804) 412-1611, fax -----Original Message----- From: Dave Koontz [mailto:dkoontz () MBC EDU] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:42 PM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Barracuda Spam Filter Watching this thread, I have a couple questions about the 'cuda' product. What exactly does this product do that the free Spam Assassin code doesn't? In other words, why should I pay someone $1000+ dollars annually for what appears to basically be free software bundled on a scaled down server. It looks like the 'cuda' device uses SA version 3.02, which is two full versions behind the SA code branch.... which may frankly address some issues posted here. Initially, it would seem in the "device" world, I might actually loose a lot of functionality and features that I have running the full fledged product. So... 1) How easy is it to upgrade the device to the latest spam assassin version? 2) Do users have their own baysian DB's and rules, or are they globally maintained? 3) How easy can users interact with or train the system? 4) Can you easily add your own SA rulesets? (Custom or SARES) 5) Can the device test & score SPF/DK/DKIM/RBL/SUBL/URIBL results? 6) Does the device support the Razor and/or DCC networks? 7) Does the device support the usage of Grey Listing Technology? Lastly... Is this product really just a way for a site to "easily" use Spam Assassin without having to invest any time or effort into learning the program? If so, that's fine, but it may not be as full featured as the product could be. If the product does all the above and more... I will immediately ask for a purchase order to save me some precious time! :-) --- Dave Koontz Mary Baldwin College Staunton VA -----Original Message----- From: Justin Sipher [mailto:jsipher () SKIDMORE EDU] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:59 PM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Barracuda Spam Filter Add us to the list of schools who are very happy Barracuda users. However, I will share a recent story which dampers our enthusiasm slightly. Our single unit (model 600) had a hardware failure recently. It was in this process that we learned that we had a new "single point of failure" in the e-mail system. One major problem at the point of the failure is that all mail in the quarantine at the time of the failure was lost. Although most was SPAM, I do know that I had at least one valid e-mail in it. It was between when I received the e-mail quarantine summary and when I actually went to retrieve/delete the message when the failure occurred. To prevent this in the future, we've bought a second one and will have the two clustered for redundancy. The second problem we had is that they **appear** to be a victim of their own success. At the point of the failure they were out of stock for a replacement even though we were at the upgraded "instant replacement" level. In our case it took three days to get a replacement and then it was a 400 model to hold us over till they could get a 600. Not ideal. I do think they have learned from this (and maybe other) incidents and knowing everything I know now, I'd still buy another one, so the up-side is pretty high to overcome those shortcomings. ...Justin _______________________________________________________ Justin Sipher Chief Technology Officer Skidmore College Saratoga Springs, NY jsipher () skidmore edu 518-580-5909 _______________________________________________________ On Jul 25, 2005, at 11:35 AM, Gibbs, Aaron M. wrote:I'm looking at the Barracuda Spam Filter and would like to know if anyone is currently using it. If so what your experiences have been. Aaron M Gibbs Interim Vice President/CIO Center for Information Technology St. Augustine's College 919-516-4379 (Office) 919-516-4382 (Fax) amgibbs () st-aug edu www.st-aug.edu
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- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter, (continued)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Tony Harris (Jul 27)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Matthew Keller (Jul 27)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Dave Koontz (Jul 27)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Hall, Rand (Jul 27)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Information Security (Jul 27)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Parker, Ron (Jul 27)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Matthew Keller (Jul 27)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Matthew Keller (Jul 27)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Jamie A. Stapleton (Jul 27)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Matthew Keller (Jul 28)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Jamie A. Stapleton (Jul 28)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Fox, Danny D. (Jul 28)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Matthew Keller (Jul 28)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Hall, Rand (Jul 28)
- Re: Barracuda Spam Filter Tom Bossie (Jul 28)
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