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Re: Training advice
From: Paul Keser <pkeser () STANFORD EDU>
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:56:45 -0700
I agree. I have taken SANS face to face classes and I also took one of their SANS at home and I actually found I got more out of it at home because I had a week between classes to do the labs also there wasn't the problem of information overload by the 3rd or 4th day...
You do miss some of the networking (interpersonal...not IP :-)) apsects of a face to face class but each have their advantages.
Also I see educational pricing advertised for SANS classes from time to time and that is very reasonably priced. I would say that even at full price including travel SANS class is the best bang for the buck you can find...IMHO...
As vendor certs go I think Cisco are pretty good. When I did my CCNA I did a self study book and passed but I was coming from a networking support background. CheckPoint on the other hand was just a quiz to make sure you could repeat their marketing spiel back to them. I also did a self study for the CISSP and passed as well but I took 130+ pages of notes and spent 3-4 mos studying for the CISSP. The CISSP exam is very challenging but my main complaint is it is 10 miles long and 2 inches deep. They brush the surface a a lot of things but didn't go into depth in anything...
A couple other options...usually the local community college or extension program has a decent selection of networking classes, not usually much of a security slant but usuallly pretty reasonably prices (as long as cisco isn't in the course...out here anyway having cisco in the name tends to ~double the cost of the course...
One final option...online degrees, I completed the MSci in Network Security at capitol college (capitol-college.edu) and am currantly converting that from a 30 credit MSci in NS to a 36 credit MSci in Informtion Assurance. I have been very happy with the quality of the courses and the quality of the instructors. It is a completely online program but still has a pretty good live classroom "feel" to it.
I hope my rambling helps...in case you couldn't tell...I tend to use up my training budget wherever I am! :-)
-PaulK Paul Keser Assoc. Information Security Officer Stanford University 650.724.9051 GPG Fingerprint: DBA3 E20F CE91 28AA DA1C 4A77 3BD9 C82D 2699 24FB John Piercy wrote:
I have really liked SANS’ course offerings. The instruction has a good pace and is delivered by superbly qualified industry professionals. They also do some heavy discounting for .edu clients. Check out the available course descriptions at http://www.sans.org/training/courses.phpThe training best suited to you will depend largely on you and your environment. I will say that I’ve taken two of the 5-day courses: Intrusion Detection In-Depth and Hacker techniques, Exploits, and Incident Handling. They were both fantastic.Good luck in your new pursuit! John Piercy Network Manager Randolph College* 2500 Rivermont Avenue Lynchburg, VA 24503 jpiercy () rmwc edu *founded as Randolph-Macon Woman's College ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Vanderbilt, Teresa [mailto:tvanderb () OZARKS EDU] *Sent:* Monday, June 18, 2007 3:02 PM *To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU *Subject:* [SECURITY] Training adviceI recently stepped into the title of Security Manager. We're a small school and this is a new position for us. I'd only maintained the servers, switches and firewalls before. I have no one to mentor me and very little budget for training. I can spend approximately $3-5K on formal training this year. I was thinking of a good online class so all the money goes toward training rather than hotels and travel. Until now, everything I've learned has been mostly on my own; although I recently attended Pentration Testing Training. What other training, both formal and informal, would benefit me and my school the most? I've been thinking of CCNA and I would like to learn how to use Snort since it's free. Will CCNA be beneficial or should I buy a good beginners book on Snort. Am I way off the mark for what I need to study? I need to get up to speed quickly and can't afford to guess at what I need. Please help.Thanks in advance, Teresa Vanderbilt University of the Ozarks
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- Re: Training advice Ken Connelly (Jun 18)
- Re: Training advice John Piercy (Jun 18)
- Re: Training advice Vanderbilt, Teresa (Jun 18)
- Re: Training advice Brad Judy (Jun 18)
- Re: Training advice Vanderbilt, Teresa (Jun 18)
- Re: Training advice Jim Dillon (Jun 18)
- Re: Training advice Sarah Stevens (Jun 18)
- Re: Training advice Vanderbilt, Teresa (Jun 18)
- Re: Training advice David Lundy (Jun 18)
- Re: Training advice Pat Wilson (Jun 18)
- Re: Training advice Paul Keser (Jun 18)
- Re: Training advice Vanderbilt, Teresa (Jun 18)
- Re: Training advice Bob Ono (Jun 21)
- Re: Training advice Paul Keser (Jun 21)
- Re: Training advice David Lundy (Jun 21)
- Re: Training advice Theresa Semmens (Jun 21)
- Re: Training advice Bob Ono (Jun 21)
- Re: Training advice Paul Keser (Jun 21)
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