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Re: User Privilege Levels.


From: "Spransy, Derek" <DSPRANS () EMORY EDU>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:30:37 -0500

If a faculty or staff member feels that they require administrative rights on their computer(s), they fill out an 
exception form and sign an agreement that basically says that they won't abuse the privileges.  I review the request to 
see if there are workarounds (like giving their account full control permissions to a certain directory) or other 
alternative options.  If the request is approved then we will create a second local account and instruct them to use 
Run As.  

We had to take a slightly different approach with our research faculty.  Many of our labs use software that we don't 
support, and they do have legitimate needs for administrative rights.  In those cases we request that the PI sign the 
form along with one or two lab managers (if any) who might need admin privileges as well.  The rest of the members of 
the lab run as regular users.  Our primary goal is not to prevent software installation but to reduce the risks 
associated with running in a higher privilege context on a daily basis.  The process that we came up with seems, so 
far, to support both our objectives and those of the faculty.

-Derek

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Derek Spransy
IT Security Lead
Emory College of Arts & Sciences
derek.spransy () emory edu
404-712-8798
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-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Harold 
Winshel
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:22 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] User Privilege Levels.

What kind of exception process do you have?

At 05:03 PM 2/24/2009, you wrote:
A year ago we (College of Arts & Sciences at Emory) started the 
process of not granting administrative rights to users by default, 
and came up with an exception process for faculty and staff that 
have a legitimate need for them.  We've had some faculty complain 
about infringements on their academic freedom, (or a similar 
argument) but there actually hasn't been a lot of that.  I've found 
that most faculty understand the need when it's explained to 
them.  Having an exception process gives us the means to provide 
faculty with other alternatives, and it shows that we're willing to 
work with them.

I maintain metrics that track the number of security incidents that 
we have per month and how much each of those incidents is costing 
us.  I've also begun tracking whether or not possessing 
administrative rights contributed to a security incident, and not 
surprisingly, it does in the vast majority of cases. Faculty are 
used to analyzing data, and having those kinds of figures helps to 
explain the method behind the madness.

-Derek

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Derek Spransy
IT Security Lead
Emory College of Arts & Sciences
derek.spransy () emory edu
404-712-8798
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-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Stopford
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:32 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] User Privilege Levels.

Have any of you run into resistance when trying to reduce 
privileges, where faculty claims "academic freedom?"  Not a 
technical question but a political one.  I am just wondering how you 
might have handled it.  You can email me offline if you would like.
Thanks,
Karen

C. Karen Stopford, CISSP
Associate Executive Officer for I.T. Security
CT State University System
39 Woodland Street
Hartford, CT  06105
(860) 493-0116


-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Jim Pollard
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:12 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] User Privilege Levels.

I can only speak from the department level but what we do is give everyone
general user access and temporarily grant administrator access if necessary
using group policy.  If administrator access is absolutely insisted upon we
may permit it with the caveat that the user is responsible for ensuring
security and receives limited support.

~Jim

Jim Pollard
Computer Systems Development Specialist
Department of Biomedical Engineering
University of Texas at Austin
it () bme utexas edu
512.789.4345

"The intelligent man is capable of overcoming problems and difficulties the
wise man would have avoided in the first place."

Rabbi Yusef Becher


-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Matthew Gracie
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:46 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: [SECURITY] User Privilege Levels.

We're in the midst of planning a rollout to Active Directory for our end
user authentication, and so we'll be joining all college-owned end user
computers to the domain. I'm curious about privilege levels. What sort
of access are other institutions giving their users to their computers?

* Are your users granted Administrative power over their own machines?

* Do you have a uniform level for all employees, or does it vary by
position?

* Can an employee move between schemes, applying for greater access
after passing a security training test or some similar mechanism?

Thanks for any replies. Feel free to respond off-list, if you like.

--Matt

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Canisius College ITS                Buffalo, NY
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