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Re: TriGeo SIEM Experience


From: Dexter Caldwell <Dexter.Caldwell () FURMAN EDU>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:57:33 -0400

I'd just like to re-emphasize Douglas' last recommendation below because
it rings so true from my experience.  It is critically important to size
quite a bit above what you judge your eps rate to be no matter what
platform you choose.  Proper vetting is essential.  You won't regret it. 


Dexter Caldwell
Information Security Administrator
Computing & Information Services
Furman University



 
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We are using enVision. We chose it largely� due to it's being able to
collect Windows logs natively.� We also liked the vast number of canned
reports that are fine out of the box and are really useful as templates
(create a copy� and then modify)� for customizing reports. The Analyze
feature is useful and we contracted for 3 days professional time to set
it up and get our preliminary training. Part of that time was spent
setting up a watchlist scenario that automatically notifies the CIO if
there is any change in the Domain Admins security group. That was more
complex than it sounds. Contact me off list if you'd like a brief
overview of how we did this.
� 
The TriGEO was one we did not look at since, at the time, the� Gartner
magic quadrant report indicated it had some limitations that caused us
not to include it in the process. It's a� copyrighted report so I can't
send it but you could ask the vendors for an updated version (mine was
1Q07). It indicated that the TriGEO didn't scale well to large
installations - that may have changed.
� 
We did eval MARS from Cisco and found that snort (required for collecting
Windows logs) if installed and not tuned, would use about 50%� of the
server's CPU. 
� 
One recommendation for choosing a SIEM, you will likely underestimate the
number of events per second you will feed to the box, so license it for 2
or 3 times more than you think you will need.
� 

Douglas Daly
Associate Director,
Technical� Services
New York Medical College
Valhalla, NY�  10595
� 
914.594.4961 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Jones [mailto:Christopher.Jones () UFV CA] 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: TriGeo SIEM Experience


Hi Daniel,
� 
We are taking a very serious look at RSA's enVision solution.�  A couple
of key advantages for us is that enVision collects, stores and processes
raw log information in native format instead of normalizing it.�  As
well, enVision is able to receive log data from are large number of
disparate devices.�  You might want to check it out.�  Thanks.
� 
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� 
Regards,
Christopher Jones
IT Security Administrator
Information Technology Services
University of the Fraser Valley
33844 King Road
Abbotsford, BC�  V2S 7M8
604.854.4566
[ mailto:Christopher.Jones () ufv ca ]Christopher.Jones () ufv ca
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"O'Callaghan, Daniel" <Daniel.OCallaghan () SINCLAIR EDU> 04/23/2009
12:35 PM >>>

We are looking at a couple of SIEM solutions, and� TriGeo is one we are
considering.� � We have heard good things from� local customers, but they
are all in� the financial� sector or subject to SOX, so have tighter
controls than� a typical .edu.� � � Does anyone have any experience
with� TriGeo in an academic environment?� � Off-list replies will be kept
confidential.
� 

________________________________________________
Daniel V. O'Callaghan, Jr., MBA, CISSP
Chief Information Security Officer
Sinclair Community College
444 West Third Street, 13-000F
Dayton, Ohio 45402-1460
937-512-2452 Fax 937-512-2385
daniel.ocallaghan () sinclair edu
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