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Re: Federal Rules of Evidence
From: Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks () VT EDU>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:19:01 -0400
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:31:00 CDT, Ken Connelly said:
Regardless, it's not the MUA that controls where a "reply" goes, but the MTA at the home of the list.
Erm, no, sorry, but thank you for playing.. Consider the following headers on a list posting: From: Joe Sixpack <joe.sixpack () hotmail com> To: Demo list <example-list () example com> You as a subscriber get a posting from that list. The MTA at example.com has *zero* control over whether you do a "reply all" and thus send a direct copy to Hotmail.com, or if you add other recipients, or make any other changes to where the reply message goes. The MLA (Mailing List Agent - which is usually *distinct* from the MTA) can provide a *suggested* value using a Reply-To: header, but can't force an MUA to actually follow it (I have a menu of Reply options - default reply, reply-all, reply-to-Sender:, reply-to-From-ignoreReplyTo, and so on). And the poor MTA can do absolutely *nothing* in the case of messages that it never sees. If you send a reply to hotmail.com, the MTA at example.com never sees it, and can't do anything with it. Incidentally, that's also why duplicate suppression using Message-Id: tags is usually done at the MUA.
And pity the fool that set a list up so that the list address was the envelope-from on posts to the list!
Amen to that part. As a historical note, that sort of error is exactly *why* the MLA is usually set up as a distinct entity from the MTA...
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- Re: Federal Rules of Evidence Mclaughlin, Kevin (mclaugkl) (Sep 05)
- Re: Federal Rules of Evidence Mark Boolootian (Sep 05)
- Re: Federal Rules of Evidence Valdis Kletnieks (Sep 05)
- Re: Federal Rules of Evidence John Ladwig (Sep 05)
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- Re: Federal Rules of Evidence Robert Lau (Sep 05)
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- Re: Federal Rules of Evidence Lena Helmbrecht (Sep 05)
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- Re: Federal Rules of Evidence Dave Koontz (Sep 05)
- Re: Federal Rules of Evidence James Farr '05 (Sep 05)
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