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Re: DMCA and NAT
From: "hall, rand" <rand () MERRIMACK EDU>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:22:14 -0500
It only takes us about 10 minutes to process a takedown request. We get a couple per week--which is mostly our own fault because our education program is minimal. I would imagine that processing time is largely related to your infrastructure and available tools. Rand On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:39 AM, SCHALIP, MICHAEL <mschalip () cnm edu> wrote:
Has anyone gone as far as trying to calculate the “cost per incident” of having to respond to something like this? While it’s almost always ** possible** to track something like this down to a 95% certainty, (given enough time and FTE funding to HAVE someone do this!?)……what is it costing our institutions to respond to these kinds of things?? Even if it only takes 1-2 hours to come up with this 95% certainty – what is that 1-2 hours costing us over the course of a year? Surely someone has already calculated this….??**** ** ** M**** ** ** *From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] *On Behalf Of *hall, rand *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:10 AM *To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU *Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] DMCA and NAT**** ** ** Kevin,**** ** ** We generate copious NAT logs off our firewall (Cisco ASA) and compress the crap out of them nightly. Doable.**** ** ** When we get a takedown notice we decompress the log for the day in question and and grep the IP/port combo. By and large, the time is right on target (well within a minute). That log file entry goes in the evidence pile.[The only requests We've had trouble with are ARES requests from RIAA. I've repeatedly offered to work with them to figure out why they're broken. Crickets.]**** ** ** We look at our NAC (Impulse) records to see who owned the internal address at that time. We grab a pretty screenshot and add it to the evidence pile. **** ** ** If the address is from an internal wireless (Meraki) pool we look for layer 7 evidence of P2P use. If we see any we grab a pretty screenshot and add it to the evidence pile.**** ** ** If the identified machine is currently on the network we'll look for live evidence of P2P traffic on our bandwidth shaper (Procera). If we see any we grab a pretty screenshot and add it to the evidence pile.**** ** ** Once the evidence is compiled we forward the takedown notice and evidence to the student. In our cover letter we are charitable and suggest that, perhaps, they don't realize that they are sharing the file and ask them to disable access to the file. We offer to further explain, to assist in disabling access, and to accept that they actually have copyright holder's permission to share the file. We ask them to help the college maintain its online reputation.**** ** ** **** Rand**** **** Rand P. Hall**** Director, Network Services askIT!**** Merrimack College**** 978-837-3532**** rand.hall () merrimack edu**** **** On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Kevin Halgren < kevin.halgren () washburn edu> wrote:**** Looking at the current discussion on DMCA notices, I was wondering how those of you using NAT handle associating a DMCA notice with a particular client system. This continues to be a challenge for us. Kevin**** ** ** -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is believed to be clean. **** -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is believed to be clean.
Current thread:
- Re: DMCA and NAT, (continued)
- Re: DMCA and NAT John Kaftan (Nov 30)
- Re: DMCA and NAT SCHALIP, MICHAEL (Nov 30)
- Re: DMCA and NAT Joel Rosenblatt (Nov 30)
- Re: DMCA and NAT Tim Doty (Nov 30)
- Re: DMCA and NAT John Ladwig (Nov 29)
- Re: DMCA and NAT Kay Avila (Dec 01)
- Re: DMCA and NAT John Ladwig (Dec 01)
- Re: DMCA and NAT hall, rand (Nov 30)
- Re: DMCA and NAT SCHALIP, MICHAEL (Nov 30)
- Re: DMCA and NAT Everett, Alex D (Nov 30)
- Re: DMCA and NAT hall, rand (Nov 30)
- Re: DMCA and NAT Brian Helman (Nov 30)