Re: CISSP Endorsement request

[Tarun Trivedi <ttrivedi () WAUBONSEE EDU>]

Thank you all for sharing your experience, criticism and support.
Information you've shared in your posts has been very helpful to me, I
look forward to learn, participate and be part of Educause listserv user
community.
 
Tarun.

 
Tarun Trivedi
 
IT Security Engineer
Waubonsee Community College
Route 47 at Waubonsee Drive
Sugar Grove, IL 60554
Ph#630-466-5744
e-mail: ttrivedi () waubonsee edu
web site: www.waubonsee.edu
 

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> > > Mark Rogowski <m.rogowski () UWINNIPEG CA> 7/17/2012 12:29 PM >>>
Indeed.  I too got the VP to sign off on mine.
 
Don't be so hard on the guy.  Its not like this cert gives him the
right to perform brain surgery or a key to a private biffy.
 
Congrats Tarun and good luck in your endevours.
Mark
 

> > > David Gillett <gillettdavid () FHDA EDU> 7/17/2012 11:39 AM >>>
  Unless the rules have changed recently without my noticing, there are
a couple of choices for endorser besides "a CISSP in good standing".  I
did know several such personages at the time through our local ISSA
chapter (which organized a helpful series of prep/study evenings for
CISSP candidates), but I actually used the endorsement of our CIO
because he was far more familiar with me and my recent work in the field
than any of my ISSA contacts.

David Gillett, CISSP CCNP

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From: Wayne S. Martin [MartinW () BRCC EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:30 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] CISSP Endorsement request

Keith,

Your test experience mirrors mine. I was a System Admin who wanted to
advance my career. I remember my struggle to find a CISSP in good
standing for a recommendation. I second your conclusions.

-wm

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[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Schoenefeld, Keith
P.
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] CISSP Endorsement request

Tarun,

Given this response, I would avoid contacting anyone at Northwestern
for an endorsement.

Roger,

Seriously, relax your natural curmudgeonly attitude a bit and put
yourself in a new CISSP's shoes.  This is often a person who is
relatively new in a dedicated security role and/or is entering or trying
to set himself/herself up for advancement.  Before you get upset about
the 'new in a dedicated security role', let's be honest: A good and
experienced systems administrator that's trying to break in to security
meets the experience requirements for a CISSP, or did last time I
evaluated the CBKs.  Either way, such an individual is using the CISSP
to affirm his knowledge or communicate to others that he has a base of
knowledge that is consistent with security professionals.  Here was my
rollercoaster ride after the CISSP test.

- I left the test feeling fried.  I'd taken all of the practice tests I
could find.  I was scoring > 90% on all of the CBKs and completing full
length sample tests in less than an hour.  The test itself took me
almost 2 hours, as I recall, and I was totally drained at the end.  I
had zero confidence that I passed.
- I waited for some number of weeks (don't recall how many) wondering
whether I'd passed or not, stressing about whether I'd wasted my
employer's money and whether I'd have to pay for a retest -- because I
was going to pass the test.
- I finally received an email message informing me of the results.  The
first sentence in the body of that message was "Congratulations! We are
pleased to inform you that you have passed the Certified Information
Systems Security Professional (CISSP®) examination - the first step in
becoming certified as a CISSP."  I went from "YES!" to "Well crap!" in
one sentence... what a downer.
- I reviewed the information in the remainder of the email, including
the referenced link [1] that states:

"A candidate receiving a pass letter informing the candidate that he or
she has passed the certification examination will also receive a blank
endorsement form. The form must be completed and signed by an (ISC)²
certified professional. The (ISC)² certified professional is anyone
who:

1) Is able to attest to the candidate's professional experience
2) Is an active (ISC)2 credential holder in good standing."

Given the endorsement process of contacting each supervisor, etc. it's
easy for an endorser to perform step 1 without any personal
relationship.  The remainder of the endorsement form asks personal
questions that inform professional character, but they are not covered
by requirements 1) and 2) as indicated on the website.

The fact is that the instructions from ISC2 are vague, and I won't hold
it against anyone if they stumble through that process as I did.  I
certainly wouldn't call them out via an email to a list of their
colleagues and peers -- I reserve that for seasoned professionals that
claim to have made a carefully measured decision to be a jerk.

-- KS

[1] - https://www.isc2.org/endorsement.aspx

Keith Schoenefeld
Information Security Analyst
Baylor University
254-710-6667

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[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Roger A Safian
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I was very tempted to forward this message to ISC2 so they might
consider this when they decide if they are going to grant you the CISSP.
 I chose not to, but, I encourage you to carefully review the documents
associated with the certificate.  It's not just a pass the test, and
hang out your shingle.  I sincerely hope your casual attitude is not
typical of the way you operate.
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[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Tarun Trivedi
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:10 AM
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Subject: [SECURITY] CISSP Endorsement request

Hello,

I recently passed the CISSP exam, I would appreciate a reply from
current CISSP certificate holder who is in good standing with (ISC)2 and
willing to be my endorser. Once/If I hear from you I will send required
documentation directly to you.

Thank you in advance for your time and consideration,




Tarun Trivedi

IT Security Engineer
Waubonsee Community College
Route 47 at Waubonsee Drive
Sugar Grove, IL 60554
Ph#630-466-5744
e-mail: ttrivedi () waubonsee edu
web site: www.waubonsee.edu

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