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Re: Event Log Monitoring - Recommendations


From: "Bradley, Stephen" <bradlesw () MIAMIOH EDU>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:38:50 -0400

We were fortunate enough to be able to afford a 100GB/day license for
Splunk.  Anyone who wants an account can access it (we maintain the local
users file, no LDAP).

Our server people put up Syslog-NG with Elsa but network and security
equipment use Splunk. You can always send everything to a Syslog server to
do a rough filter and then forward the results to Splunk and it reduces the
size of the required license.


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:24 PM, William C. Moore <wcmoore () valdosta edu>wrote:

 From a security perspective I couldn’t agree more with sharing log
information especially when the sensitive and confidential data are
sanitized (within reason).  I take very little to no issue providing
Systems and Network personnel read-only access and my primary requirement
is that no one from these areas be able to modify or remove any logs.
Since we use syslog-ng quite a bit for UNIX log management the up side is
the Network and Windows admins have a better reason to learn grep and awk.
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William C. Moore II, CISSP, MEd, MLIS****

Chief Information Security Officer****

Valdosta State University****

Valdosta, GA 31698****

Phone:(229)333-5974****

Fax:  (229)245-4349****

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*From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] *On Behalf Of *Greg Williams
*Sent:* Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:47
*To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
*Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] Event Log Monitoring - Recommendations****

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I allow all of IT to use Splunk, minus some sensitive data.  There are
definitely huge benefits to giving them access.  They use it in some
amazing ways especially looking at logs to make sure new technology they
implement will be sized appropriately.  For example, looking at historical
ldap connections per second and making sure a load balancer will handle all
the requests.  They found out it would have reached peak capacity just a
few seconds within the past year and could see exactly when it hit those
peak times.****

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Greg Williams
IT Security Principal
University of Colorado at Colorado Springs
Website: http://www.uccs.edu/itsecure
greg.williams () uccs edu****

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*From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [
mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] *On
Behalf Of *Matt Pasiewicz
*Sent:* Thursday, April 25, 2013 10:27 AM
*To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
*Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] Event Log Monitoring - Recommendations****

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For any of you that have rich search interfaces, are you exposing slices
of the data to your devops crews?  You've got a wealth of information
there.  When I was in the private sector, our goals for systems like these
encompassed more than security ... depending on what log information you
capture, they can provide great insight into defects and performance tuning
(which can reduce costs).  My current thinking is that by enlarging the
circle of participation, you get lots of intangible benefits ... developers
are encouraged to make logs more meaningful (reducing the signal-to-noise
ratio) and the the team as a whole realizes economies of scale across silos
of security, development, operations, etc.  It creates the conditions for
many reciprocal benefits.  ****

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Thoughts?****

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On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:53 AM, William C. Moore <wcmoore () valdosta edu>
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Allow me to throw another name into the mix for comment.  I have been
checking on Q1Labs also but I am also interested in Logrhythm as a viable
SIEM.  We too used Splunk for several years but we found that it was not
providing the reports and trending data we require.  I have yet to go
through an on-campus demo so if anyone has a recommendation I too am very
interested in their experience.****

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William C. Moore II, CISSP, MEd, MLIS****

Chief Information Security Officer****

Valdosta State University****

Valdosta, GA 31698****

Phone:(229)333-5974****

Fax:  (229)245-4349****

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*From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] *On Behalf Of *Greg Williams
*Sent:* Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:20
*To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
*Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] Event Log Monitoring - Recommendations****

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Greg, for strictly log management I would recommend Splunk.   We put our
Splunk deployment in place last year.  The goal wasn’t event correlation,
it was log management so we weren’t really looking at a SIEM, such as
QRadar, Nitro, ArcSight, etc.****

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I put together a log management policy and matrix before I started looking
at products.  It helped narrow down the products before we started getting
bids.  I can email it to you if you are interested.  ****

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Greg Williams
IT Security Principal
University of Colorado at Colorado Springs
Website: http://www.uccs.edu/itsecure
greg.williams () uccs edu****

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*From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [
mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] *On
Behalf Of *Greg Schmalhofer
*Sent:* Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:11 AM
*To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
*Subject:* [SECURITY] Event Log Monitoring - Recommendations****

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We do not currently have any product for event log and/or system log
monitoring, reporting, and alerting, but are about to begin the process of
reviewing various products to see what might be the best fit for our
environment, needs, and budget(small). We are a mix of Windows (AD), HP
Unix, and Linux servers with Exchange and Oracle. Please let me know if you
are able to recommend any product or solution for monitoring logs and
providing various reporting and alerting. At the recent Educause Security
Professionals Conference several individuals had recommended QRadar. Any
thoughts or feedback on these products and/or any others would be greatly
appreciated.****

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-          QRadar (Q1Labs)****

-          What’s Up Log Management Suite (IPswitch)****

-          GFI Events Manager (GFI)****

-          Event Log Analyzer (ManageEngine)****

-          StealthWatch (Lancope)****

-          Others****

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Thanks for any and all feedback!****

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Thanks,****

Greg ****

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*Greg Schmalhofer*****

Information Security Coordinator****

Millersville University****

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Stephen W. Bradley CISSP GCFA GCIH GWAPT SSCP
Senior Security Engineer
Miami University
IT Services
bradlesw () miamioh edu
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