Re: TOR and the Digital Freedom Conversation

["Jones, Mark B" <Mark.B.Jones () UTH TMC EDU>]

One thing I think it illustrates is that the notion of privacy varies widely
from one person to the next.  Clearly some people do not consider the NSA
surveillance activities to be an infringement on their privacy while others
consider it the basest treachery.
  
It is my opinion that this observation falls in line with the need to
balance Identity, Trust, Privacy, and Accountability.  If your perception is
that the NSA cannot be trusted and that the agency is not appropriately
accountable you will see the surveillance very negatively with respect to
privacy.  But if you are disposed to trust that the NSA is acting in your
best interests and that Congress and the Courts have adequate control over
NSA activities, then you will be less concerned.


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> [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Manjak, Martin
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>
> Good article.
>
> One thing that always strikes me about the people who believe they have
> nothing to fear from such all-encompassing surveillance as practiced by
the
> likes of the NSA is that, ultimately, they fail to realize they won't be
the ones
> who get to decide whether or not they have anything to hide.
>
> One of the grand objectives of the NSA's surveillance, storage, and
analysis
> capabilities is the ability to build networks of associations. So, even if
you
> don't have "anything to hide," can you vouch for all your associates, and
their
> associates, and so on?
>
> I'm afraid that one of the more insistent lessons of history is that when
heads
> start to roll,  those purges acquire a madness and momentum that cuts a
very
> wide swath before they exhaust themselves.
>
>
> Marty Manjak
> ISO
> University at Albany
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of David Escalante
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:04 PM
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>
> Interesting piece just came out on this sort of thing on another list I'm
on....
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.securitycurrent.co
> m/en/writers/mark-rasch/dont-spy-on-me-id-rather-be-
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> --
> David Escalante

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