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Re: Password Management Policy & Standards
From: David Sheryn <dsheryn () LONDON EDU>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:38:38 +0000
There is an interesting, if somewhat dated paper, by Ross Anderson, Professor of Security Engineering at Cambridge University (http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/ https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/ ), reporting on the results of some empirical research to try and establish how much password 'folklore' was actually true (http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/techreports/UCAM-CL-TR-500.pdf). I believe that as a result, he successfully challenged the University's auditors insistence on frequent password changes. IIRC, when asked what the basis they had for insisting on this, the only response that the auditors could come up with was "Head Office says so"... Regards -- David Sheryn | Information Security Specialist -- Networks, Telecoms & Security | Information Technology. London Business School | Regent's Park | London NW1 4SA | United Kingdom. Switchboard +44 (0)20 7000 7000 | Direct line +44 (0)20 7000 7776 www.london.edu | London experience. World impact. -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Mark I. Berman Sent: 26 February 2016 12:02 To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Management Policy & Standards Joanna, So what you're saying is that the reason to expire passwords is to make the accountants happy rather than any rational balancing of risk/reward? I think I probably agree with you. We just had a discussion here about whether we need to worry about password expiration and complexity so much if we move to two factor authentication. One thing that was brought up is that we might not even know if a password is compromised since the bad-guy still wouldn't be able to get in, lacking the second factor. And do we care at that point that the password was compromised. Two factor auth certainly seems to throw a monkey wrench into the question of how important complex and frequently changed passwords really are! - Mark -- Mark Berman, Chief Information Officer Siena College 515 Loudon Road Loudonville, NY 12211 (518)782-6957, Fax: (518)783-2590
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- Password Management Policy & Standards Carlos Lobato (Feb 24)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Bradner, Scott (Feb 24)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Von Welch (Feb 25)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Joanna Grama (Feb 25)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Von Welch (Feb 25)
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- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Mark I. Berman (Feb 26)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Bradner, Scott (Feb 26)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Brad Judy (Feb 26)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards David Sheryn (Feb 26)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Mark Borrie (Feb 28)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Joanna Grama (Feb 26)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Brad Judy (Feb 26)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards McClenon, Brady (Feb 26)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards David Sheryn (Feb 26)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Bradner, Scott (Feb 26)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Bradner, Scott (Feb 24)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Kevin Reedy (Feb 26)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Frank Barton (Feb 26)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Dan Sarazen (Feb 26)
- Re: Password Management Policy & Standards Frank Barton (Feb 26)