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Re: Email and IAM directory separation


From: "Semmens, Theresa" <theresa.semmens () MIAMI EDU>
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 12:30:16 +0000

I have to agree with Mark, trying to separate is a fruitless effort, and it will cause more consternation that it's 
worth.  You are best to roll out the controls and standards to everyone including the students.

Theresa Semmens, CISA
AVP Chief Information Security Officer
University of Miami
Suite 1100
1320 S. Dixie Highway
Coral Gables, FL
O: (305) 284-1526
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From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> On Behalf Of Jones, Mark B
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 3:37 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Email and IAM directory separation

Those are good arguments, but you will be bailing water out of that sinking boat until you retire.

You will have a significant amount of crossover where faculty and even students can also be clinicians.  Then you have 
to decide if you will put them with one group or the other.  Neither decision will make them happy.  You might want 
them to use two different email addresses, but they won't.  you will get clinical mail on the education side no matter 
how you try to keep them separate.

Just raise the bar for both and keep it all together and simple.

From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV 
EDUCAUSE EDU>> On Behalf Of Bennett, Daniel
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:07 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Subject: [SECURITY] Email and IAM directory separation

All,

I left higher ed and went to healthcare a few years back.  Now our health system owns a College.  The topic of email 
and active directory has come up a few times.  I would like feedback from those of you working for universities with a 
healthcare element and the approach you all have taken.  My thought is our higher education and clinical businesses 
should remain separate since the level of trust, regulation, and security are different for both sectors.  We should 
not house the email from our students & faculty at the College in the same environment as that of our clinicians and 
healthcare administration.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

Daniel Bennett
Enterprise Cybersecurity Architect
CISSP, ISSAP, ITIL

Information Security Office
100 N Academy Ave, Danville, PA 17822-2290
MC30-02
(w) 570-214-1685
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