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Re: Gauntlet source IP address re-write question


From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy () cospo osis gov>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:40:31 -0500 (EST)

This is a Gauntlet specific question, but I would like to hear about other
systems too. I am looking at implementing Gauntlet at some sites and have come
across a question that I can't easily find an answer for. 

Being an APG, the proxy rewrites the source IP address of connections outgoing
from the internal protected networks to that of the outside interface of the
firewall.

I.e, if I telnet from an internal machine to some machine on the Internet and
do a "who", I will see myself logged in from the external IP address of the
firewall.

There is an option for "transparency" in Gauntlet, but from what I can tell
from the documentation, it only works in such a way that the internal users can
initiate connections directly to the outside world. Transparency in that case
provides for not having to reconfigure internal users' machines.

The problem is the IP address rewrite.  When I connect to some external host
with whatever application, I want to see the source IP address as the real IP
address, not the IP address of the firewall. Is there such a way to make
Gauntlet do that? As far as I can tell, the only way is to use the "Plug"
proxy, which does have an option for passing the source IP address. But there
is no such option on the telnet proxy setup.

Raptor, on the other hand, in the last release of their software implemented a
whole scale transparency that does accomplish maintaining the source IP address
of connections coming across the proxies. Is there really no such comparable
option in Gauntlet? Can you turn off source IP address re-write? Maybe I missed
something.

Raptor enables wholesale transparency of your network, letting people
outside route anything THEY want to anywhere on your network.  This is
why we don't like it and don't use it.  Gauntlet transparency does the
same thing, to some degree.  (Yes, as I understand it, for telnet,
too.)  You'll have to decide whether you feel comfortable exposing
yourselves like that.

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Joe Yao                         jsdy () cospo osis gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
COSPO/OSIS Computer Support                                     EMT-A/B
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