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Re: Content blocking - Singapore seems to manage??
From: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr () nfr net>
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:59:03 -0400
Have been looking at Singapore's SBA pages - and they don't report any trouble at all. They say they've not charged ANYONE, cost hasn't risen, efficiency hasn't been lost, and business is booming. Is it naieve to believe this?
And there are no gays in the U.S. military, marijuana is unavailable, and nobody under the legal drinking age can obtain alcohol in the U.S. Nobody exceeds the speed limit, and nobody jaywalks. ;) One of the problems with content blocking is handling violations. I suspect the easiest way to handle them is never to see them in the first place. ;) As I said in my previous message, a lot of companies have _existing_ policies that would cover online "objectionable material" -- they ask for technologies to block it at the firewall yet, at the _same_ time, they have firewall logs that show without reasonable doubt who the offenders are already. Why not just deal with them directly? Oh, no, that would cause too much conflict... In fairness it's because it puts the network manager in a position of having to do H.R.'s job, which is kind of ridiculous. But then the whole idea of preventing communication over a communication channel is kind of ridiculous. The whole problem is basically unsolvable, so throwing technology at it just makes it complicated and basically unsolvable. If you don't actually try to enforce your policy, I guess that violations aren't a problem! My impression of many nations' laws is that they are on the books so you have something to throw at _flagrant_ violators if they make a nuisance. That's what I think most H.R. policies about "objectionable content" also are there for. You need something to point at when you decide to shut someone down because they've finally irritated someone enough to warrant it. My impression of Singapore is that a lot of the laws work that way: they are there to throw at you if you become a pest. For example, publishing magazines, etc, is regulated. But there's no regulation of ownership of high-output laser printers or copiers. The laws exists so you can "grease" the occasional "squeaky wheel." It actually makes _sense_ to run a country or a company in this manner. It fails when the people running the country or the company lack sense. Which argues for a benevolent dictatorship / benevolent totalitarian regime. mjr. -- Marcus J. Ranum, CEO, Network Flight Recorder, Inc. work - http://www.nfr.net home - http://www.clark.net/pub/mjr
Current thread:
- Content blocking - Singapore seems to manage?? Di Phelan (Jun 20)
- Re: Content blocking - Singapore seems to manage?? Marcus J. Ranum (Jun 20)
- Re: Content blocking - Singapore seems to manage?? Edward Choh (Jun 21)
- Re: Content blocking - Singapore seems to manage?? Technical Incursion Countermeasures (Jun 28)
- Re: Content blocking - Singapore seems to manage?? Edward Choh (Jun 21)
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- RE: Content blocking - Singapore seems to manage?? Desai, Ashish (Jun 21)
- RE: Content blocking - Singapore seems to manage?? Alan Lustiger (Jun 21)
- Re: Content blocking - Singapore seems to manage?? Crispin Cowan (Jun 24)
- RE: Content blocking - Singapore seems to manage?? Desai, Ashish (Jun 21)
- RE: Content blocking - Singapore seems to manage?? Henry Sieff (Jun 21)
- Re: Content blocking - Singapore seems to manage?? Marcus J. Ranum (Jun 20)