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RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability


From: "Joe Ippolito" <joe () joesnet com>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:17:48 -0700

Load sharing is a manual configuration?
Sessions would be lost and have to be reestablished?
This could be a pretty big hiccup with a few hundred sessions?

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-firewall-wizards () lists nfr net
[mailto:owner-firewall-wizards () lists nfr net]On Behalf Of Bill Stout
Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 2:03 PM
To: 'firewall-wizards () nfr net'
Subject: RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability



I suspect the answers are vendor-specific here.

So why would a VPN not fail over?  Current sessions should break, but should
be no more interruption than temporary packet loss on the Internet.

Rather than start a new VPN on failover, why not have two VPNs predefined
and ready to accept connections once the IP address is failed over?

Bill Stout



 -----Original Message-----
From:   Ryan Russell [mailto:Ryan.Russell () sybase com]
Sent:   Saturday, September 11, 1999 3:07 PM
To:     Aaron D. Turner
Cc:     Joe Ippolito; Franck Veysset; firewall-wizards () nfr net
Subject:        RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability




I thought the problem with H/A and VPN is only one of the firewalls
can have the VPN "certificate".  When the primary fails and the
secondary takes over the remote site aborts the VPN because the
secondary has the wrong cert.  The fix is to manually update the
certificates (or perhaps via a script).

Beacuse, by default, FW-1 allows any established connection through,
the state table of the secondary shouldn't become an issue.  If FW-1
didn't allow that, all established connections would drop when the
secondary took over.

... And "established " only applies to TCP, and the VPN doesn't
run over TCP.  It runs over IP in IP.  The problem is that FW-1's
state sharing code always seems to lag behind the new features,
so you get things like the VPN state not being shared even though it's
been around for awhile.

                         Ryan


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