Firewall Wizards mailing list archives
REXX
From: MHawkins () TULLIB COM
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:16:18 -0500
I have a REXX too. It now lives in my bedside drawer. I still have a look at it now and then wondering whether I could get a JVM running on it or Linux. lol Has anyone here ever heard of anyone EVER being able to download their own app to a REXX? I would love to here about it. -----Original Message----- From: firewall-wizards-admin () honor icsalabs com [mailto:firewall-wizards-admin () honor icsalabs com] On Behalf Of Dragos Ruiu Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:13 PM To: Marcus J. Ranum; Frank Knobbe Cc: Hawkins, Michael; firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] Username password VS hardware token plus PIN On February 23, 2005 05:18 pm, you wrote:
Dragos Ruiu wrote:The problem with the old PDA idea is user reluctance.Then get SecurIDs or whatever for the few users who insist on 'em. But there are PDAs that are tiny, too - credit card size like the Oregon Scientific PDA293 ($9.95 at officedepot.com) or Xircom's Rex, which needs no cradle because it fits in a PCMCIA slot to sync and recharge...
Heh, being a gadgetaholic, I own a Rex... (which was not amongst my most stellar purchases btw, or long-lived in terms of use, though it was small enough in its pcmcia form factor that it rattled around in my suitcase for years before i noticed it and threw it in the dinosaur equipment pile with the newtons and many other strange oddball devices). I don't know anything about the Oregon Scientific device, but the Rex is a non starter. First killer is the frighteningly limited input system, and second is the high level of reverse engineering needed to retrofit anything onto that device as it has nothing resembling a programmatic interface or any user accessible code bits. It's only marginally more useful than a paper printout of your contacts, though the batteries don't die on paper. :-)
Basically, you're just conveying excuses. And you're making them sound better by implying that they are from some senior manager who can't carry a credit card sized device along with his golf clubs. But the truth is that he's not going to tolerate *anything* that enhances security because he's a moron.
Morons happen. They frequently happen in senior management. And yes, I've seen plenty of resistance to even credit card sized tokens as I recommend the devices. For the record, remember, I said I _liked_ external two factor authentication. I just think that rather than trying to defeat the cost issue with old PDAs, you will have more success selling it as an excuse to buy a svelte new sexy modern PDA on a company budget. Or go buy some token thingies... Cobbling together some frankenstein solution of dubious software plus cheap pdas off ebay sounds like a recipe for disaster. In the end, if even the arguably low cost of the commercial tokens is too much of a hurdle for a company's data integrity/security, then there is a security issue that will likely only be rectified at the board level. :-) cheers, --dr -- World Security Pros. Cutting Edge Training, Tools, and Techniques Vancouver, Canada May 4-6 2005 http://cansecwest.com pgpkey http://dragos.com/ kyxpgp _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------- The information contained in this email is confidential and may also contain privileged information. Sender does not waive confidentiality or legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately; you should not retain this message or disclose its content to anyone. Internet communications are not secure or error free and the sender does not accept any liability for the content of the email. Although emails are routinely screened for viruses, the sender does not accept responsibility for any damage caused. Replies to this email may be monitored. For more information about the Collins Stewart Tullett group of companies please visit the following web site: www.cstplc.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
Current thread:
- REXX MHawkins (Feb 24)