Re: Firewall best practices

["Harrell, Matthew" <mhar () plex com>]

That is exactly what they do, at least the ones I'm familiar with.  The firewall is acting as the server (it's a proxy, 
anyway):  The CSR is generated there, and the cert is installed there.  This then allows the firewall to scan the data 
in the packets as well as header information for RFC compliance, etc.  Some firewalls even allow for the re-encryption 
of the HTTPS traffic back to the web server.  We don't need that functionality, and simply send the packets on to the 
servers as plain text HTTP.  If we need to know whether the traffic arrived at the firewall encrypted, then I configure 
the firewall to use a different port for the traffic to the back end web server.

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Matthew Harrell
Plex Systems
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mhar () plex com
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Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] Firewall best practices

My understanding of https (and other PKI-based encryption) is that
only the holder of the private key can decrypt the data encrypted with
the other (public) key in the pair. My view is that the firewall can
only decrypt and inspect https traffic if it is acting as the server
to the external client. It can't intercept and decrypt https traffic
destined for another device - the real server. If it did https would
be worthless. Any hacker could buy such a firewall to sniff and
decrypt all https traffic.

On 23 April 2010 20:18,  <david () lang hm> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Martin Barry wrote:
>
> > $quoted_author = "Marcus J. Ranum" ;
> > > That's why firewalls need to go back to doing what they
> > > originally did, and parsing/analyzying the traffic that
> > > flows through them, rather than "stateful packet
> > > inspection" (which, as far as I can tell, means that
> > > there's a state-table entry saying "I saw SYN!")
> >
> > Marcus, are you referring to DPI or proxies or both or something else
> > entirely?
> >
> >
> > > If the firewall doesn't understand the data it's passing,
> > > it's not a firewall, it's a hub.
> >
> > If an application emulates HTTPS traffic and is proxy aware, how do you
> > tell
> > the difference?
>
> There are firewalls on the market that can decrypt HTTPS traffic (and I
> believe be configured to block any traffic that they can't decrypt)
>
> David Lang
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