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RE: Firewall vs. IPS - Differences now (ISS, Intrushield 2.1?)
From: Jose Maria Lopez <jkerouac () bgsec com>
Date: 29 Aug 2004 18:57:27 +0200
El miC), 18 de 08 de 2004 a las 20:27, Fulp, J.D. USA escribiC3:
Hi Jacob, Here's the way I see it: 1. Firewalls filter 2. IDSs alarm 3. Both Firewalls and IDSs have to have "some" degree of "smarts" to
be able to do their
respective jobs. 6. Since both filtering devices (e.g., routers and firewalls) and IDS
devices need to be "smart"
enough to detect foul play.... why not admit the obvious and
combine the two technologies?
This is why the NEW buzz tech these days is IPS (Intrusion
Prevention Systems)-- that is; if
you're smart enough to flag traffic as an intrusion attempt... then
why not block it!! Duh.
You will also see this new tech referred to as IDP (Intrusion
Detection and Prevention). I don't agree with point 6.Firewalls block packets without knowing almost anything about the content of the packet, so they are very effective in the work they have to do. IPS have to decode the packets and inspect their content, they are slow, prone to errors and over all not very effective for every packet. The ideal if what people is using today. You have your firewall that does it's works perfectly and then you send the traffic the firewall have allowed (like traffic to/from port 80/21/etc) to the IPS, that decodes only this sessions and tells the firewall if the session have to be accepted or denied. I think a mix of a firewall and an IPS it's the future, not a more effective IPS. -- Jose Maria Lopez Hernandez Director Tecnico de bgSEC jkerouac () bgsec com bgSEC Seguridad y Consultoria de Sistemas Informaticos http://www.bgsec.com ESPAÑA The only people for me are the mad ones -- the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow Roman candles. -- Jack Kerouac, "On the Road"
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- Re: Firewall vs. IPS - Differences now (ISS, Intrushield 2.1?) Srini (Aug 20)
- Re: Firewall vs. IPS - Differences now (ISS, Intrushield 2.1?) Joel Snyder (Aug 20)
- Re: Firewall vs. IPS - Differences now (ISS, Intrushield 2.1?) Thomas Ptacek (Aug 25)
- Re: Firewall vs. IPS - Differences now (ISS, Intrushield 2.1?) nick black (Aug 29)
- Re: Firewall vs. IPS - Differences now (ISS, Intrushield 2.1?) Mike Frantzen (Aug 30)
- Re: Firewall vs. IPS - Differences now (ISS, Intrushield 2.1?) nick black (Aug 30)
- Re: Firewall vs. IPS - Differences now (ISS, Intrushield 2.1?) Mike Frantzen (Aug 30)
- Re: Firewall vs. IPS - Differences now (ISS, Intrushield 2.1?) Thomas Ptacek (Aug 25)