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Re: Definition of Zero Day Protection
From: Ranjeet Shetye <ranjeet.shetye2 () zultys com>
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:32:38 -0700
Lets say that Worm.A has been mutated into Worm.A1, and that protection against Worm.A also happens to protect against Worm.A1 . Is this Zero Day Protection with respect to Worm.A1 ? Marketing would say "Yes". Its an additional checkbox that they can tick while selling to a client. (Technically, it could be considered a very weak form of Zero Day Protection) An engineer would probably apply more stringent standards before he/she claimed zero-day protection. An engineer would probably envision Zero Day Protection to be reasonable protection against an unknown agent that has not been previously studied. Complete protection from such unknown agents would be the "cool" zero day protection that we all aim for. Lets just say that Marketing standards are weaker than Engineering standards cos the driving forces are different i.e. customer-sales-driven versus technology-driven. Ranjeet. * Teicher, Mark (Mark) (teicher () avaya com) wrote:
Marketing ploy?? You mean marketing people don't state the truth about Zero Day Protection and how it works ?? /mark -----Original Message----- From: Carey, Steve T GARRISON [mailto:steven-carey () us army mil] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 11:08 AM To: Teicher, Mark (Mark) Cc: Seanor, Joseph (Joe); focus-ids () securityfocus com Subject: RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection My own personal opinion, based on 7 years of experience in intrusion detection, is that it is a marketing ploy. Only way to ensure Zero Day Protection is to use a 'suite' of IDS tools and have an analyst looking at those logs 24/7 to find the Zero Day Exploit. Vendors can state they prevent Zero Day Exploits but to do that you can also stop legitimate traffic. Maybe sometime in the future that can happen, but not today. Steve Carey -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 to learn more. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Re: Definition of Zero Day Protection, (continued)
- Re: Definition of Zero Day Protection Stefano Zanero (Aug 10)
- Re: Definition of Zero Day Protection Ali-Reza Anghaie (Aug 11)
- Re: Definition of Zero Day Protection David Maynor (Aug 11)
- Re: Definition of Zero Day Protection Stephen P. Berry (Aug 13)
- Re: Definition of Zero Day Protection Stefano Zanero (Aug 10)
- Re: Definition of Zero Day Protection Martin Roesch (Aug 11)
- RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection Carey, Steve T GARRISON (Aug 09)
- RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection Carey, Steve T GARRISON (Aug 09)
- Re: Definition of Zero Day Protection Drew Simonis (Aug 09)
- RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection Teicher, Mark (Mark) (Aug 09)
- RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection Michal Zalewski (Aug 10)
- Re: Definition of Zero Day Protection Ranjeet Shetye (Aug 10)
- RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection Teicher, Mark (Mark) (Aug 09)
- Re: Definition of Zero Day Protection Andy Cuff (Aug 11)
- RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection Drew Copley (Aug 09)
- Re: Definition of Zero Day Protection Devdas Bhagat (Aug 13)
- RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection Fulp, J.D. USA (Aug 09)
- RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection Joshua Berry (Aug 10)
- RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection Brian Smith (Aug 10)
- RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection Teicher, Mark (Mark) (Aug 10)
- RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection Brian Smith (Aug 10)
- RE: Definition of Zero Day Protection Drew Copley (Aug 10)
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