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RE: Worm attack generation tools
From: "Robert D. Holtz" <robert.d.holtz () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:07:20 -0500
Good luck on your quest. These types of experiments are always fun learning experiences! Great scientific discoveries aren't followed by "Eureka!" ... it's more like "that's funny". -----Original Message----- From: Joey Peloquin [mailto:joeyp () cotse net] Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 9:39 AM To: Robert D. Holtz Cc: 'miaomitiff119'; focus-ids () securityfocus com Subject: Re: Worm attack generation tools Robert D. Holtz wrote:
You would be surprised at what one infected machine can crank out. I've seen two mediocre machines cripple a four T1 MLPPP bundle. I've done time at a CLEC and one of our most common problems was folks insisting
there
internet connection was down when it was actually an infected machine on their internal LAN going nuts. I could watch the traffic once it entered into the core and was able to see that it was trash. What type of bandwidth are you trying to throw at these things? I would assume that the IDS system is "mainly" watching ingress traffic
from
the internet which for the most part won't be too high due to the cost of this type of access. This assumption goes out the window if you have IDS systems separating departments, business units, etc. Then you're talking LAN speeds.
Department segregation within the LAN is exactly what I'm talking about, though I can't speak for the OP. Ingress worm traffic does virtually nothing to us, because it's usually the same 'ole vectors, 135, 139 or 445, which have been blocked, filtered, or otherwise denied (perimeter routers, before the traffic even gets to our IPS) from the Internet for many moons. Still, I like your style, and wish I would have thought of throwing "real" worm traffic at my boxes. Cheers, -jp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 to learn more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current thread:
- Worm attack generation tools miaomitiff119 (Aug 17)
- Re: Worm attack generation tools Stefano Zanero (Aug 18)
- Re: Worm attack generation tools Joey Peloquin (Aug 18)
- RE: Worm attack generation tools Robert D. Holtz (Aug 21)
- Re: Worm attack generation tools Joey Peloquin (Aug 21)
- RE: Worm attack generation tools Robert D. Holtz (Aug 21)
- Re: Worm attack generation tools Joey Peloquin (Aug 21)
- RE: Worm attack generation tools Robert D. Holtz (Aug 21)
- RE: Worm attack generation tools Tony Haywood (Aug 24)
- RE: Worm attack generation tools Robert D. Holtz (Aug 21)
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- Re: Worm attack generation tools whonosewho (Aug 21)