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Re: Obfuscated web pages


From: Tim <tim-security () sentinelchicken org>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:51:39 -0800

Without this capability, it would seem that network based
IDS/IPS is destined to digress to AV style malware
signatures for malicious web server issues and that the only
reliable place to do IDS/P would be on the host.

Signature-based IDS systems are exactly like AV systems, just network
focussed.  They are always going to be at least one step behind
attackers.

The specific issue of JavaScript obfuscation drives this point home
quite well.   IMO, it is unlikely that any IDS engine could implement
the beast that is ECMAScript and all of it's children and still be safe
while reliably detecting attacks.  It approaches issues similar to the
halting problem.

tim

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