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RE: Re[2]: pissed off
From: "Steve Wray" <steve.wray () paradise net nz>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 09:47:15 +1200
And the fact that software companies can get away with claiming to have no liability for the fitness of their products means that they can continue to produce and sell and make millions out of their defective products.
From the Unix Haters Handbook;
<quote> Real standards ... are for physical objects like steel beams: they let designers order a part and incorporate it into their design with foreknowledge of how it will perform under real-world conditions. "If a beam fails in service, then the builder's lawyers call the beam maker's lawyers to discuss things like compensatory and punitive damages." Apparently, the threat of liability keeps most companies honest; those who aren't honest presumably get shut down soon enough. <end quote> Somehow an entire industry has arisen with no concept of liability and, therefore, with no concept of honesty. No honesty *at* *all*
-----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of J G Sent: Monday, 28 April 2003 8:23 a.m. To: full-disclosure () netsys com Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Full-disclosure] pissed off No, no, no. Read the End User License Agreement. Every one I have read says the vulnerabilities belong to the licensee (user) of the software, never the people that put them there. RayI thought vulnerabilities belonged to people who werewriting vulnerablesoftwares..._________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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