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RE: [fd] RE: [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by W32Blaster] (fwd)
From: "Gerald Cody Bunch" <gbunch () gmx net>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:54:26 -0400
After this I will stop pissing into the wind. While I agree with you to a certain extent that certs mean nothing, I have used my MCSE as a good foot in the door, however I did not cease my learning there. I was not ragging because it is an M$ cert, but because there is a difference between test passers, and engineers. It exists with any company that offers an acronym to throw after your name. I am done now, and need to wipe my face off. Thanks, Gerald Cody Bunch 'CCNA, MCSE, MCSA, MCP, CNA, NET+, A+, AND YOUR MOTHERS BEST FRIEND' gbunch () gmx net -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Andre Ludwig Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:33 PM To: 'Disclosure Full' Subject: RE: [fd] RE: [Full-disclosure] [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by W32Blaster] (fwd) <rant> I nominate this thread most useless thread EVAR! With that being said, can you guys please move on, and repeat after me. CERTS MEAN NOTHING! I know several people who have certs that run *nix machines who are complete idiots for the simple fact that they have not expanded their horizons past a command prompt. I also know people who wouldn't be able to properly use dir(or ls) and cd from a command prompt if the fate of the world depended on it. So my point is this, shut up already mcse, cissp, ccie, ccna, ccnp, and what ever else you have behind your name means absolutely nothing in the real world. Maybe the PHB's in the cube farms and offices of Corp America care but lets face it in the trenches letters mean dick. SO stop ragging on MCSE's simply because it is a Microsoft cert, that is asinine and completely immature. I mean think of all the business M$ has created, hell if it wasn't for them the INFOSEC field would be 100 or so Sun consultants running around trying to sell the latest and greatest (please note the sarcasm in that comment, and yes i know it would be a totally different market then that). SO be thankful that good ole Billie Boy keeps us all so gainfully employed and entertained. Please take this post for what it is, A RANT! Andre Ludwig, M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I <---- 4m 1 l33t n0w? </rant> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Vasquez [mailto:mike () blakogre com] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:56 AM To: 'Disclosure Full' Subject: Re: [fd] RE: [Full-disclosure] [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by W32Blaster] (fwd) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Cody Bunch" <gbunch () gmx net>
Please define the term real MCSE, being as the first word in the acronym stands for 'Microsoft' it would stand to reason that a real MCSE is nothing more than trained 'Microsoft' marketing monkey.
Gee wiz -- sign me up for one of your logic classes, please. That's brilliant rock solid reasoning. Not reality based, but on this list, that doesn't matter. :-) _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- RE: [fd] RE: [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by W32 Blaster] (fwd) Andre Ludwig (Aug 20)
- RE: [fd] RE: [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by W32Blaster] (fwd) Gerald Cody Bunch (Aug 20)
- RE: [fd] RE: [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by W32Blaster] (fwd) Steve Wray (Aug 20)