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Re: Reacting to a server compromise


From: Alexandre Dulaunoy <alexandre.dulaunoy () ael be>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:00:42 +0200

On 03/Aug/03 12:33 +1000, devnull () iprimus com au wrote:
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 01:38 am, Jennifer Bradley wrote:

If this happens again, I would probably make a copy of the hard drive,
or at the very least the log files since they can be entered as
evidence of a hacked box.

Under most jurisdictions, an ordinary disk image produced by Norton Ghost etc 
using standard hardware is completely inadmissible in court, as it is 
impossible to make one without possibly compromising the integrity of the 
evidence. The police etc use specialised hardware for making such copies, 
which ensures that the disk can't have been altered.

Getting evidence  by reading (via  any software or  hardware solution)
may compromise the integrity of the evidence. I would like to know the
difference between  for example a  (s)dd and the  specialised hardware
that you talk about ? Do you have any references ? 

Preserving  the  scene integrity  is  really  difficult.  You have  to
minimize the  intrusion to the  scene. On computer hardware  is really
difficult...  Using a hardware device that doesn't change too much the
scene is difficult... (think of a compromised disk firmware). 

And  the worst,  sometimes  we  see something  that  doesn't exist  at
all. Forensic analysis is the land of illusion... 

just my .02 EUR. 

adulau

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