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Re: JAP back doored
From: Adrian Nutz <list () nutz ch>
Date: 21 Aug 2003 21:05:55 +0200
But this is not the full story....see http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/uma-20.08.03-000/ (in german). In short: While the AN.ON-Projekt was forced to put in the logging-function, other mixes are not affected. SPLINE (http://www.spline.de/) for example refuses to implment the logging. They are in the cascades Luebeck-Berlin-Dresden and New York-Berlin-Dresden. I think that german judges won't have a way to force a mix in New York to implment the logging, which gives a cascade of two (possibly) unlogged mixes if you use the New York-Berlin-Dresden cascade. I believe, that if there where more mixes around and more traffic on the, this would be the best way to give a lot of anonymity. There should be mixes in many different countries, if possible most of them shouldn't have any kind of treaties that allow a fast reaction from the police in this countries if some other country wants logs. Having many mixes requires a lot of traffic to conceal the individual...best way here would be if large firms proxied all their employees through JAP...which would help the firms as well. regards, Adrian On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 19:20, error wrote:
This is a terrible day for privacy advocates that used the once (perhaps never true) "anonymous" Java Anonymous Proxy. According to a story ( http://theregister.co.uk/content/55/32450.html) by The Register (It was also posted to ("http://securityfocus.com/archive/1/334382/2003-08-18/2003-08-24/0) BugTraq) JAP was back doored by court order. It was a forced upgrade (after a service interruption) to monitor "one site" that continues to be unnamed. How sad it is when a group have a motto of "Anonymity is not a crime." and then hand logs to the police without a word? Clearly if they are able to defend themselves on alt.2600 (http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&frame=right&th=f4ef43f695ca29e8&seekm=3f3d3740%241_1%40news.vic.com#link10), they aren't under a gag. Read it and weep.
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