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Re: Partial Solution to SUID Problems


From: Ciro <domino () asgardnet org>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:41:00 -0500 (EST)

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Gino Thomas wrote:


I asked some ppl the same question, answers vary. On one hand some ppl
trust the suids and claim that messing up with them will open new
problems and that there are also many other ways to get root (kernel,
libc, daemons,...) on the other hand ppl agreed with me that if i don't
need uucp, why should it be on my box anyway (and that suid or sgid).
As said, i disabled all suids except 'su', so a user can't use
'netstat', 'ping' or even 'man' anymore, but i do not want that on a
bastion host anyway, eh? Mounting whats left on a separate partition
seems to be as logical as doing that for /home, /tmp,...

I would like to see a detailed discussion about this, too.


The thing that screams "bad idea" or at least "inconvienient pain in the
neck" to me is that, on the off chance that a wide-spread exploit is
found and you have to "make world" or whatever, it puts them right back
and you have to do it again.

Of course, I'm a perl scripter, so by definition I'm lazy[0] ;)

-C

[0]Larry Wall said it, not me. <g>


"Why would burgulars need to look for a backdoor when they can climb in
through Windows?" --Norman L DeForest, in NANAE
"You know how dumb the average luser is? Well, half of 'em are dumber
than that" -- The Roadie, in NANAE

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