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Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:09:16 +1200
"morning_wood" <se_cur_ity () hotmail com> wrote:
Windows® networking ( TCP) and messenger service are both initialized before any user/admin login has taken place, ...
Ummmmm -- isn't that (initialized prior to any login) what being a service means on NT-based OSes? The only other ways to do it are kernel hacking and with drivers...
... and are remotely accessable
Well, a _server_ would not be much use if it couldn't be reached until someone performed a (console) login. In the real most such machines sit in large rooms notable for the number of other such machines and the lack of humans... And, even on boxes that are nominally "workstations" or "desktops" it is common for some of their components to be acting as a server would, which takes us back to the first point and "services" being one of the s/w components of NT-based OSes that implement server-like functions.
odd... setting up default XP box in DMZ I complete the install setting up networking ( dhcp ) and ( workgroup ) only one passworded administrator account as prompted by the instalation media.... reboot. I leave box unatended for aprox 30 minuts at the login screen... Upon sucessfull passworded login, a message-ala-windows messenger service is displayed.. ( damn spammers ) BEFORE THE DESKTOP !!! and before anything ( except wallpaper ) has initialized
This does not surprise me.
here is output from a remote nbtenum session before a sucessfull login of a freshly booted XP box
<<snip>>
dunno if this particular behavior has been observed before ( im donning Nomex® for the flames )
I don't know either, and while I have not specifically seen precisely this, I am entirely unsurprised by your report. AFAIK that is what would be expected. Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service morning_wood (Jul 16)
- RE: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service Benjamin Meade (Jul 16)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service morning_wood (Jul 16)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service John Reilly (Jul 16)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service morning_wood (Jul 16)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service John Reilly (Jul 16)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service morning_wood (Jul 16)
- RE: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service Benjamin Meade (Jul 16)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service morning_wood (Jul 16)
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- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service morning_wood (Jul 16)
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