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RE: Student faces suit over key to CD locks
From: <dhtml () hush com>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:38:24 -0700
It has now been drawn to my attention that Peter has 'backed down' from the lawsuit. I fear that it is too late for that dear Peter. A an officer of a public company it is unacceptable to throw around 'willy-nilly' lawsuits at whim. This affects not only the integrity of the company that you steer but also causes grave concern to the editors of leading internet publications. I am some articles ABOUT your proposed lawsuit are now only propagating through the media wires. To have you suddenly reverse this within hours is most selfish and all reporters will now have to scramble to fix the miss your whim has created. My suggestion now is two-fold - 1. you relenquish your stewardship immediately, you are not fit to run the ship any longer - 2. failing that we shall endeavour to purchase sufficient shares in the operation to toss you 'willy-nilly' by your ear, out the door. This is not the way we conduct corporate busines in this day and age, you have sullied your company's already less than glistening reputation and made a mockery of both the security industry and the judicial system to which we only turn to as a last resort. My decision is final. On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:58:32 -0700 dhtml () hush com wrote:
You may write to "prez" of SunnNNNcoMMMMM Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers here: peter () sunncomm com or view his gibberish under a woefully insecure flash infested website here: http://www.sunncomm.com/asktheprez/asktheprez.asp Peter has addressed a carefully selected question about "hacking" and answered it like security is a barbie doll, a "plaything". Perhaps Peter should not be in the security field judging by his childlike attitude,
the miserably cartoonish website of his company and the simple fact that his entursted chore of creating copy-protection mechansims can be defeated by simply holding down a "KEY". I would suggest whoever has commissioned or contracted him to produce this farcical product, immediately penalise not only this pathetic company but also him personally as an officer pathetic company. Peter - you have insulted the entire security community with such a ridiculous product. Kindly refrain from entering this field and stick to something else. As a security guru, a multi-billionaire and a fund manager for a top 10 prime bank, I shall be instructing my people to downgrade your stock as a result of all of this. I am now even embarrassed to call me peter Peter. Shame on you! Q: I´ve heard your technology can be hacked. Does that mean it won´t "work?" (10/6/2003 7:37:18 PM) A: Not at all. People who perform tests on MediaMax and declare it to be "hackable" don´t understand why it´s there in the first place. Let me tell you why: 1. All technology can be "hacked" by people wishing to make illegal and unauthorized use of the content owners´ property. Prior to MediaMax,
there was no alternative to the illegal copying and re-copying of music by users. Now with MediaMax on the CD, honest people have a way of honoring the artist´s wishes regarding how and where the music property can be copied and shared. 2. MediaMax was designed to put a structure on the CD, itself, that empowers consumers to make licensed, legal and yes, limited copies of the music. The world has never seen anything like it before. 3. Thieves attempting to circumvent the technology for the purpose of re-distributing the music are breaking the law. Nothing will ever stop these thieves. They´ve rationalized the theft and they will always be looking for ways to cheat the system. 4. The goal of MediaMax was not to invent the "holy grail" (since one does not exist). The idea was to provide users with a way to legally use the CD, whether that be for copying or sharing the music. The difference between using our implanted technology or ripping the music for re-distribution is the difference between withdrawing money from your bank or robbing it. 5. If you owned technology that allowed you to transport the money from your local bank to your living room, doesn´t give you the right to do it. Music is much the same. As a consumer, you purchase the "listening rights" to the music on the CD, not the duplication rights. 6. No matter how much stealing (called "sharing" to make thieves feel better about themselves)goes on, it´s still taking the copyrighted property of others and converting it to one´s own use. 7. The current version of MediaMax is like any software technology in Version 1. The next version will make it tougher and tougher to circumvent. We have to start somewhere and progressive record companies like BMG and others understand this. 8. Meanwhile, honest people, may, for the first time, enjoy the pleasurable experience of legal and licensed copying and sharing of their music - that´s about 95% of us. That´s who we designed MediaMax for. 9. So-called "experts" who grandstand by publishing MediaMax hacks don´t "get it." They seem to born out of some Messiah complex hell-bent on saving the world from any technological attempt to protect artists and their property. It´s as though they think that music is different from other real property. It isn´t, and the people who subvert the protection that is afforded by MediaMax, no matter how trivial they deem that protection to be, are conspiring to commit theft against the wishes of the artists who created the musical property. 10. With MediaMax, we have a technology that plays on virtually every device and allows both copying and sharing, yet some think our technology is worthless based on how easy or hard it is to steal and convert the music property. It´s as though they think that honest people will always steal if there´s a way to get away with it. Hackers think circumventing protection technologies is a game. It´s not. It´s a crime. I´m going to predict they´ve all got a wake-up call coming. -------------- This is how we, a bunch of musicians and artists (and, yes, business people) at SunnComm feel about what we do. Thanks for writing, Peter Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger https://www.hushmail.com/services.php?subloc=messenger&l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program:https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427
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