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RE: Student faces suit over key to CD locks


From: <dhtml () hush com>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:38:24 -0700

It has now been drawn to my attention that Peter has 'backed down' from
the lawsuit.

I fear that it is too late for that dear Peter. A an officer of a public
company it is unacceptable to throw around 'willy-nilly' lawsuits at
whim.  This affects not only the integrity of the company that you steer
but also causes grave concern to the editors of leading internet publications.
I am some articles ABOUT your proposed lawsuit are now only propagating
through the media wires.  To have you suddenly reverse this within hours
is most selfish and all reporters will now have to scramble to fix the
miss your whim has created.

My suggestion now is two-fold - 1. you relenquish your stewardship immediately,
 you are not fit to run the ship any longer - 2. failing that we shall
endeavour to purchase sufficient shares in the operation to toss you
'willy-nilly' by your ear, out the door.

This is not the way we conduct corporate busines in this day and age,
 you have sullied your company's already less than glistening reputation
and made a mockery of both the security industry and the judicial system
to which we only turn to as a last resort.

My decision is final.

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:58:32 -0700 dhtml () hush com wrote:
You may write to "prez" of SunnNNNcoMMMMM Peter Piper picked a peck
of
pickled peppers here: peter () sunncomm com or view his gibberish under
a woefully insecure flash infested website here:

http://www.sunncomm.com/asktheprez/asktheprez.asp

Peter has addressed a carefully selected question about "hacking"
and
answered it like security is a barbie doll, a "plaything". Perhaps
Peter
should not be in the security field judging by his childlike attitude,


the miserably cartoonish website of his company and the simple fact
that his entursted chore of creating copy-protection mechansims
can be
defeated by simply holding down a "KEY". I would suggest whoever
has
commissioned or contracted him to produce this farcical product,
immediately
penalise not only this pathetic company but also him personally
as an
officer pathetic company.

Peter - you have insulted the entire security community with such
a ridiculous
product. Kindly refrain from entering this field and stick to something
else.

As a security guru, a multi-billionaire and a fund manager for a
top
10 prime bank, I shall be instructing my people to downgrade your
stock
as a result of all of this.

I am now even embarrassed to call me peter Peter. Shame on you!

Q: I´ve heard your technology can be hacked. Does that mean it won´t
"work?"  (10/6/2003 7:37:18 PM) 

A: Not at all. People who perform tests on MediaMax and declare
it to
be "hackable" don´t understand why it´s there in the first place.
Let
me tell you why:

1. All technology can be "hacked" by people wishing to make illegal
and
unauthorized use of the content owners´ property. Prior to MediaMax,


there was no alternative to the illegal copying and re-copying of
music
by users. Now with MediaMax on the CD, honest people have a way
of honoring
the artist´s wishes regarding how and where the music property can
be
copied and shared.

2. MediaMax was designed to put a structure on the CD, itself, that
empowers
consumers to make licensed, legal and yes, limited copies of the
music.
The world has never seen anything like it before.

3. Thieves attempting to circumvent the technology for the purpose
of
re-distributing the music are breaking the law. Nothing will ever
stop
these thieves. They´ve rationalized the theft and they will always
be
looking for ways to cheat the system.

4. The goal of MediaMax was not to invent the "holy grail" (since
one
does not exist). The idea was to provide users with a way to legally
use the CD, whether that be for copying or sharing the music. The
difference
between using our implanted technology or ripping the music for
re-distribution
is the difference between withdrawing money from your bank or robbing
it.

5. If you owned technology that allowed you to transport the money
from
your local bank to your living room, doesn´t give you the right
to do
it. Music is much the same. As a consumer, you purchase the "listening
rights" to the music on the CD, not the duplication rights. 

6. No matter how much stealing (called "sharing" to make thieves
feel
better about themselves)goes on, it´s still taking the copyrighted
property
of others and converting it to one´s own use.

7. The current version of MediaMax is like any software technology
in
Version 1. The next version will make it tougher and tougher to
circumvent.
We have to start somewhere and progressive record companies like
BMG
and others understand this.

8. Meanwhile, honest people, may, for the first time, enjoy the
pleasurable
experience of legal and licensed copying and sharing of their music
-
that´s about 95% of us. That´s who we designed MediaMax for.

9. So-called "experts" who grandstand by publishing MediaMax hacks
don´t
"get it." They seem to born out of some Messiah complex hell-bent
on
saving the world from any technological attempt to protect artists
and
their property. It´s as though they think that music is different
from
other real property. It isn´t, and the people who subvert the protection
that is afforded by MediaMax, no matter how trivial they deem that
protection
to be, are conspiring to commit theft against the wishes of the
artists
who created the musical property. 

10. With MediaMax, we have a technology that plays on virtually
every
device and allows both copying and sharing, yet some think our technology
is worthless based on how easy or hard it is to steal and convert
the
music property. It´s as though they think that honest people will
always
steal if there´s a way to get away with it.

Hackers think circumventing protection technologies is a game. It´s
not.
It´s a crime. I´m going to predict they´ve all got a wake-up call
coming.

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This is how we, a bunch of musicians and artists (and, yes, business
people) at SunnComm feel about what we do.

Thanks for writing,

Peter




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