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RE: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly
From: "Curt Purdy" <purdy () tecman com>
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:12:01 -0500
I think we have lost the point of the thread CyberInsecurity: The Cost of Monopoly which states your exact point that diversity is the most important aspect of network protection. It clearly states, and I agree, that Microsoft has been the biggest danger to that diversity by creating a monolithic Tower of Babel that could all come crashing down at the displacement of a single foundation stone. Curt Purdy CISSP, GSEC, MCSE+I, CNE, CCDA Information Security Engineer DP Solutions ---------------------------------------- If you spend more on coffee than on IT security, you will be hacked. What's more, you deserve to be hacked. -- former White House cybersecurity zar Richard Clarke -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com]On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 11:02 AM To: '*Hobbit*'; full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: [inbox] RE: [Full-disclosure] CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Wouldn't this have been better posted in alt.religious? And, to wit - working in a completely homogenous environment with Microsoft products, Red Hat, AIX, Tandem, much custom written apps, and the platform chosen for the best APPLICATION fit (remember - it doesn't really matter if you prefer Linux if the business drivers DICTATE an APP that only runs on Windows, and CygWin, wine, etc. are not options), I think I can speak to both sides of the argument. BTW - Don't care about certs.... Do I personally feel like I've wasted 10+ years of MY life? No - absolutely not. Do I take PRIDE in my WORK? Absolutely yes. Working to integrate and interoperate disparate platforms and OSs to provide a cohesive Business solution is both challenging and enlightening. One learns the best of both worlds - and is not hobbled by prejudice and raw hate for a given product or company. (However, SCO is on the real strong dislike list.....) Would I change? Nope - I like flexibility and the ability to choose a solution based on what the requirements are - not because someone has dictated a given OS is the only one we support. That thinking would have kept Linux out of our environment, and there would be more MS product..... I'm also not so hard headed to realize that diversity is a good thing - in computing, and in life. -rtk -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of *Hobbit* Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 7:44 PM To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly I gotta love how all the Microsoft victims get all defensive when someone implies that they've spent the last decade+ ruining their own careers and wasting time running in tiny circles getting pretty much nowhere. Do you guys honestly take PRIDE in your WORK?? What, and tacking MCS* after your name doesn't count, have you actually ACCOMPLISHED? How would things be different today if you had spent all that time helping to bring open-source up to today's level of expected functionality and designing the future, instead of scratching your heads late at night over obscurely ailing Exchange servers and service packs that broke all your apps? Why won't you admit to yourselves that in the big picture, you could have gone a different and more rewarding way, if you'd only started out right so long ago? If you were given a second chance now, would you change? ** THINK ABOUT IT. ** _H* _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: [inbox] Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly, (continued)
- Re: [inbox] Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Gregory A. Gilliss (Sep 29)
- Re: [inbox] Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 30)
- Re: [inbox] Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Rodrigo Barbosa (Sep 29)
- Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Gregory A. Gilliss (Sep 26)
- RE: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Rick Kingslan (Sep 27)
- Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Peter Busser (Sep 27)
- Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Fabio Gomes de Souza (Sep 28)
- RE: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Chris Stewart (Sep 26)
- RE: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly *Hobbit* (Sep 27)
- RE: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Rick Kingslan (Sep 27)
- RE: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Curt Purdy (Sep 27)
- Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Florian Weimer (Sep 28)
- Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Karl DeBisschop (Sep 28)
- Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Paul Schmehl (Sep 28)
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- Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Michal Zalewski (Sep 28)
- Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Frank Knobbe (Sep 28)
- RE: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Rick Kingslan (Sep 27)
- Re: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly Paul Schmehl (Sep 28)
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